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RE: so if you are maori you are allowed to jump ships? - harm_less - 09-05-2023

(09-05-2023, 07:35 PM)Wainuiguy Wrote:
(09-05-2023, 07:09 PM)harm_less Wrote: That's more about complying with rules of engagement and resisting acting on whatever the f**k you think should be happening.

As a list MP once she leaves her party she should no longer be in Parliament.  She should no longer be an MP.  She does not have any mandate to remain.
Pay attention. She has yet to formally resign from the Labour party as far as the PM is concerned. Those are the rules I was referring to.


RE: so if you are maori you are allowed to jump ships? - Wainuiguy - 09-05-2023

(09-05-2023, 07:50 PM)harm_less Wrote:
(09-05-2023, 07:35 PM)Wainuiguy Wrote: As a list MP once she leaves her party she should no longer be in Parliament.  She should no longer be an MP.  She does not have any mandate to remain.
Pay attention. She has yet to formally resign from the Labour party as far as the PM is concerned. Those are the rules I was referring to.

Pay attention.  I'm not referring to Meka Whitiri.  See the clue was when I said list MP.


RE: so if you are maori you are allowed to jump ships? - Oh_hunnihunni - 09-05-2023

So many women MPs jumping ship... No wonder we get confused!

Thank goodness for Chloe...


RE: so if you are maori you are allowed to jump ships? - Wainuiguy - 09-05-2023

(09-05-2023, 08:00 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: So many women MPs jumping ship... No wonder we get confused!

Thank goodness for Chloe...

Aparently shes a bit of a crybaby.


RE: so if you are maori you are allowed to jump ships? - Oh_hunnihunni - 09-05-2023

I thought her response to that entire debacle was rather well considered. She will make a great PM one day.


RE: so if you are maori you are allowed to jump ships? - Wainuiguy - 09-05-2023

(09-05-2023, 08:28 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: I thought her response to that entire debacle was rather well considered. She will make a great PM one day.

She certainly has the eyebrows for the job.


RE: so if you are maori you are allowed to jump ships? - Oh_hunnihunni - 09-05-2023

Okaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay...


RE: so if you are maori you are allowed to jump ships? - harm_less - 09-05-2023

(09-05-2023, 07:53 PM)Wainuiguy Wrote:
(09-05-2023, 07:50 PM)harm_less Wrote: Pay attention. She has yet to formally resign from the Labour party as far as the PM is concerned. Those are the rules I was referring to.

Pay attention.  I'm not referring to Meka Whitiri.  See the clue was when I said list MP.
Apologies for not hanging on your every word. 'Mad women's fart' sort of explains that. I was still processing the OP.


RE: so if you are maori you are allowed to jump ships? - Wainuiguy - 09-05-2023

(09-05-2023, 09:02 PM)harm_less Wrote:
(09-05-2023, 07:53 PM)Wainuiguy Wrote: Pay attention.  I'm not referring to Meka Whitiri.  See the clue was when I said list MP.
Apologies for not hanging on your every word. 'Mad women's fart' sort of explains that. I was still processing the OP.

So like Ardern, not really an apology.  Maybe next time don't just jump onto a post without understanding the context.  

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RE: so if you are maori you are allowed to jump ships? - Oh_hunnihunni - 10-05-2023

(09-05-2023, 09:17 PM)Wainuiguy Wrote:
(09-05-2023, 09:02 PM)harm_less Wrote: Apologies for not hanging on your every word. 'Mad women's fart' sort of explains that. I was still processing the OP.

So like Ardern, not really an apology.  Maybe next time don't just jump onto a post without understanding the context.  

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I know it must be soul destroying for you when everytime you get bored to tears with your usual perch and have to resort to popping in here for a bit of stirring, to be met with argument and stone throwing, instead of your well deserved applause and genuflection. It must be very hard to bear such an assault on your psyche, and I can only stand in admiration of the personal strength and resilience you must have in order to keep coming back time after time in the face of it.

Good onya mate.

Tongue


RE: so if you are maori you are allowed to jump ships? - Lilith7 - 10-05-2023

(10-05-2023, 11:14 AM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote:
(09-05-2023, 09:17 PM)Wainuiguy Wrote: So like Ardern, not really an apology.  Maybe next time don't just jump onto a post without understanding the context.  

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I know it must be soul destroying for you when everytime you get bored to tears with your usual perch and have to resort to popping in here for a bit of stirring, to be met with argument and stone throwing, instead of your well deserved applause and genuflection. It must be very hard to bear such an assault on your psyche, and I can only stand in admiration of the personal strength and resilience you must have in order to keep coming back time after time in the face of it.

Good onya mate.

Tongue

I rather think that post deserves a virtual chocolate award - Whittakers, obviously.

 But since by some dreadful oversight none is to be had among the icons, a star & cake will have to do instead. Star Cake

Bravo. Big Grin Rolleyes


RE: so if you are maori you are allowed to jump ships? - Wainuiguy - 10-05-2023

(10-05-2023, 11:14 AM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote:
(09-05-2023, 09:17 PM)Wainuiguy Wrote: So like Ardern, not really an apology.  Maybe next time don't just jump onto a post without understanding the context.  

[Removed: Rule 8]

I know it must be soul destroying for you when everytime you get bored to tears with your usual perch and have to resort to popping in here for a bit of stirring, to be met with argument and stone throwing, instead of your well deserved applause and genuflection. It must be very hard to bear such an assault on your psyche, and I can only stand in admiration of the personal strength and resilience you must have in order to keep coming back time after time in the face of it.

Good onya mate.

Tongue

Not at all.  But I do love it when certain posters shove their foot squarly in their mouth because they are so quick to try and shoot down someone else's opinion.  Always worth a smile.

Also I find it interesting that my reference to reading comprehension is removed yet the poster I was replying to who referred to me as an "old woman's fart" didn't have the same consideration.


RE: so if you are maori you are allowed to jump ships? - Oh_hunnihunni - 10-05-2023

(10-05-2023, 01:13 PM)Wainuiguy Wrote:
(10-05-2023, 11:14 AM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: I know it must be soul destroying for you when everytime you get bored to tears with your usual perch and have to resort to popping in here for a bit of stirring, to be met with argument and stone throwing, instead of your well deserved applause and genuflection. It must be very hard to bear such an assault on your psyche, and I can only stand in admiration of the personal strength and resilience you must have in order to keep coming back time after time in the face of it.

Good onya mate.

Tongue

Not at all.  But I do love it when certain posters shove their foot squarly in their mouth because they are so quick to try and shoot down someone else's opinion.  Always worth a smile.

Also I find it interesting that my reference to reading comprehension is removed yet the poster I was replying to who referred to me as an "old woman's fart" didn't have the same consideration.

Awwww, you need a hug WG? I've been told I give really good ones...  Big Grin


RE: so if you are maori you are allowed to jump ships? - Wainuiguy - 10-05-2023

(10-05-2023, 02:39 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote:
(10-05-2023, 01:13 PM)Wainuiguy Wrote: Not at all.  But I do love it when certain posters shove their foot squarly in their mouth because they are so quick to try and shoot down someone else's opinion.  Always worth a smile.

Also I find it interesting that my reference to reading comprehension is removed yet the poster I was replying to who referred to me as an "old woman's fart" didn't have the same consideration.

Awwww, you need a hug WG? I've been told I give really good ones...  Big Grin

*shiver* a lefty hug is like a weak sweaty handshake.


RE: so if you are maori you are allowed to jump ships? - Oh_hunnihunni - 10-05-2023

(10-05-2023, 03:11 PM)Wainuiguy Wrote:
(10-05-2023, 02:39 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Awwww, you need a hug WG? I've been told I give really good ones...  Big Grin

*shiver* a lefty hug is like a weak sweaty handshake.

I do a good line in 'coochie coochie coos' too? No? 

Your loss... Big Grin


RE: so if you are maori you are allowed to jump ships? - Wainuiguy - 11-05-2023

Back to the topic. Why hasn't that Green MP been removed from Parliament? She has no mandate to be there now she has resigned as a Green MP.


RE: so if you are maori you are allowed to jump ships? - SueDonim - 11-05-2023

(11-05-2023, 10:11 AM)Wainuiguy Wrote: Back to the topic.  Why hasn't that Green MP been removed from Parliament?  She has no mandate to be there now she has resigned as a Green MP.

Yes, I've been wondering that too. Different questions for both of the current "jumpers" but both need to be asked. The one who is just a list MP now has no mandate whatsoever to be there so I can't see how she still is. And the one who has an electorate needs to formally resign from Labour and be an independent until the election. I don't see how she can represent the Maori party until the election gives her a seat.


RE: so if you are maori you are allowed to jump ships? - Wainuiguy - 11-05-2023

(11-05-2023, 02:10 PM)SueDonim Wrote:
(11-05-2023, 10:11 AM)Wainuiguy Wrote: Back to the topic.  Why hasn't that Green MP been removed from Parliament?  She has no mandate to be there now she has resigned as a Green MP.

Yes, I've been wondering that too. Different questions for both of the current "jumpers" but both need to be asked. The one who is just a list MP now has no mandate whatsoever to be there so I can't see how she still is. And the one who has an electorate needs to formally resign from Labour and be an independent until the election. I don't see how she can represent the Maori party until the election gives her a seat.

This close to the election the electorate MP may as well sit tight rather than trigger a by-election but should resign from Labour formally.

The list MP however should not be there.  She was appointed for the position by her party and if she has left that party she should be removed from that position and the next Green candidate on the list bought in as MP


RE: so if you are maori you are allowed to jump ships? - Oh_hunnihunni - 11-05-2023

I think list members positions are a matter for the Party rather than the electorate surely?


RE: so if you are maori you are allowed to jump ships? - Wainuiguy - 11-05-2023

(11-05-2023, 04:42 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: I think list members positions are a matter for the Party rather than the electorate surely?

Yes correct and so if  list MP resigns from their party how can they retain a seat that was awarded to that party?