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RE: David Seymour - Oh_hunnihunni - 26-04-2025
(26-04-2025, 02:27 PM)heisenberg Wrote:(26-04-2025, 01:53 PM)harm_less Wrote: More than enough obese, chronically unhealthy and/or incarcerated white folks to prove that point.
sure there is but they arnt wanting super at 55
Uh huh, but are they any more 'greedy' that the fair few who have no need of those super payments but nevertheless sign up soon as to get their hands on them?
I wish this particular benefit was better targetted. So those with genuine need could access it earlier, and those with absolutely no need weren't eligible at all...
RE: David Seymour - heisenberg - 26-04-2025
(26-04-2025, 03:49 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote:(26-04-2025, 02:27 PM)heisenberg Wrote: sure there is but they arnt wanting super at 55
Uh huh, but are they any more 'greedy' that the fair few who have no need of those super payments but nevertheless sign up soon as to get their hands on them?
I wish this particular benefit was better targetted. So those with genuine need could access it earlier, and those with absolutely no need weren't eligible at all...
so people who have worked hard all their lives, paid lots of tax, contributing to other peoples superannuation shouldnt be allowed to receive it themselves?
how about people who have spent their lives not working lying in bed all day collecting the dole i suppose in your world they should get extra?
RE: David Seymour - harm_less - 26-04-2025
(26-04-2025, 04:02 PM)heisenberg Wrote:Firstly tax is not a savings scheme to be drawn down on after retirement. It is a contribution to the economic functioning of the country, which includes welfare for those that are in need of it for a variety of reasons including in their retirement.(26-04-2025, 03:49 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Uh huh, but are they any more 'greedy' that the fair few who have no need of those super payments but nevertheless sign up soon as to get their hands on them?
I wish this particular benefit was better targetted. So those with genuine need could access it earlier, and those with absolutely no need weren't eligible at all...
so people who have worked hard all their lives, paid lots of tax, contributing to other peoples superannuation shouldnt be allowed to receive it themselves?
how about people who have spent their lives not working lying in bed all day collecting the dole i suppose in your world they should get extra?
Your second point seems close to conflating racial groups with 'dole bludging'. At best that is generalising, or at worse it is racism. So where are you basing your accusation?
RE: David Seymour - Oh_hunnihunni - 26-04-2025
(26-04-2025, 04:02 PM)heisenberg Wrote:(26-04-2025, 03:49 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Uh huh, but are they any more 'greedy' that the fair few who have no need of those super payments but nevertheless sign up soon as to get their hands on them?
I wish this particular benefit was better targetted. So those with genuine need could access it earlier, and those with absolutely no need weren't eligible at all...
so people who have worked hard all their lives, paid lots of tax, contributing to other peoples superannuation shouldnt be allowed to receive it themselves?
how about people who have spent their lives not working lying in bed all day collecting the dole i suppose in your world they should get extra?
Super is not a pension. We do not pay into it. We pay taxes that are broadly assigned. Super is a benefit, just like the dole. Superannuitants are beneficiaries, and this one is extremely grateful for that privilege.
Btw. lots of people pay lots of tax over the years, and never get to receive super. You think they should get a refund?
RE: David Seymour - Praktica - 26-04-2025
I think we have aquired a trollus interneticus...
RE: David Seymour - Oh_hunnihunni - 26-04-2025
Yes, can we keep him? He's so cute...
RE: David Seymour - heisenberg - 27-04-2025
(26-04-2025, 04:46 PM)harm_less Wrote:(26-04-2025, 04:02 PM)heisenberg Wrote: so people who have worked hard all their lives, paid lots of tax, contributing to other peoples superannuation shouldnt be allowed to receive it themselves?
how about people who have spent their lives not working lying in bed all day collecting the dole i suppose in your world they should get extra?
Your second point seems close to conflating racial groups with 'dole bludging'. At best that is generalising, or at worse it is racism. So where are you basing your accusation?
your the one bringing up racism with dole bludging not me
(26-04-2025, 05:49 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote:(26-04-2025, 04:02 PM)heisenberg Wrote: so people who have worked hard all their lives, paid lots of tax, contributing to other peoples superannuation shouldnt be allowed to receive it themselves?
how about people who have spent their lives not working lying in bed all day collecting the dole i suppose in your world they should get extra?
lots of people pay lots of tax over the years, and never get to receive super. You think they should get a refund?
why not
RE: David Seymour - Oh_hunnihunni - 27-04-2025
Why not indeed? I could collect and be rich, lol.
And that is exactly why not.
RE: David Seymour - Lilith7 - 27-04-2025
(27-04-2025, 10:40 AM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Why not indeed? I could collect and be rich, lol.
And that is exactly why not.
I have come to the conclusion that I seriously do not want to be rich. It doesn't seem to do most people much good...
RE: David Seymour - Oh_hunnihunni - 27-04-2025
Rich people cost the rest of us, and the planet way too much. It is obesity on a terminal scale.
RE: David Seymour - Lilith7 - 27-04-2025
(27-04-2025, 11:33 AM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Rich people cost the rest of us, and the planet way too much. It is obesity on a terminal scale.
true - it doesn't seem to do anything for those who are wealthy, either.
With a few exceptions of course like, that football chap from an African country, who instead of buying ridiculously expensive cars, instead set up things such as schools & hospitals in his village.
RE: David Seymour - Oh_hunnihunni - 27-04-2025
(27-04-2025, 11:37 AM)Lilith7 Wrote:(27-04-2025, 11:33 AM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Rich people cost the rest of us, and the planet way too much. It is obesity on a terminal scale.
true - it doesn't seem to do anything for those who are wealthy, either.
With a few exceptions of course like, that football chap from an African country, who instead of buying ridiculously expensive cars, instead set up things such as schools & hospitals in his village.
Yes, but their leadership could've done that. If they chose to.
RE: David Seymour - Lilith7 - 27-04-2025
(27-04-2025, 12:04 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote:(27-04-2025, 11:37 AM)Lilith7 Wrote: true - it doesn't seem to do anything for those who are wealthy, either.
With a few exceptions of course like, that football chap from an African country, who instead of buying ridiculously expensive cars, instead set up things such as schools & hospitals in his village.
Yes, but their leadership could've done that. If they chose to.
And that is the heart of the problem - idiot leaders who generally lack empathy.
I think that having too much money is as bad for we humans as is having too little - just in different ways.
RE: David Seymour - Oh_hunnihunni - 29-04-2025
This kind of sums it up for me...
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DI9DKpBJXwZ/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
RE: David Seymour - Lilith7 - 29-04-2025
(29-04-2025, 06:10 AM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: This kind of sums it up for me...
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DI9DKpBJXwZ/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
That says it all - well said, that woman!
