(02-06-2025, 08:20 PM)zqwerty Wrote: I find him fairly annoying.

(03-06-2025, 07:44 AM)harm_less Wrote:

(02-06-2025, 08:20 PM)zqwerty Wrote: I find him fairly annoying.

Like finding a maggot in your dinner 

(03-06-2025, 07:44 AM)harm_less Wrote:

(02-06-2025, 08:20 PM)zqwerty Wrote: I find him fairly annoying.

Like finding a maggot in your dinner 

(02-06-2025, 06:04 PM)zqwerty Wrote: Remember trolls just troll, there's no rhyme or reason it's just sheer bloody mindedness to get on your goat and get a rise out of you.

They especially attack treasured beliefs and undermine them.

There was a cult here in Christchurch that was called Z.A.P., Zenith Applied Philosophy, which used this technique as a way to break people's minds through proving to them that all they hold dear is actually not true and then after they collapse mentally they go into a state of fugue (a period during which a person experiences loss of memory, often begins a new life, and, upon recovery, remembers nothing of the amnesic phase) and can be reprogrammed into believing anything.  Z.A.P. used this to get people working for very low wages in their Fried Chicken Outlets in the Square and Carlton Corner whilst they sorted themselves out again after the mind zap and got back on track admittedly altered and never the same again.  (The Dog House, Farmer John's Chicken House)

It works because all beliefs are just that, beliefs, knowing is the thing that's harder to destroy in anyone's mind, it goes: thinking, believing, knowing.

The leader of the cult had people driving past his place somewhere on the way to the University of Canterbury, in Fendalton I believe, shooting shot guns through the walls.  (John Dalhoff (aka John Ultimate)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenith_Applied_Philosophy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Dalhoff

There's a bit more if you search for Zenith Applied Philosophy on Google.

Doesn't sound much like NZ does it?

When I was on my way to Christchurch I think it was when I was in transit in Durban and I had a conversation with someone in the bar of a hotel and one of the things they said to me was:  Look Out For The Cults in NZ there is lots of them.  They also said back in the past that Christchurch was known as Sin City.  I guess that would have been in the hay days of Lyttleton Port before the advent of container ships shut a lot of the pubs down.

Crazy really but it happened.

(02-06-2025, 08:04 PM)Praktica Wrote: I can't see heisenberg being enough of a troll to induce anything more than a feeling of disbelief in his gullibility.

(03-06-2025, 04:09 PM)heisenberg Wrote: the lefty circle jerk continues

(03-06-2025, 04:09 PM)heisenberg Wrote: the lefty circle jerk continues

(02-06-2025, 08:20 PM)zqwerty Wrote: I find him fairly annoying.

(04-06-2025, 07:18 AM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Wow, he's quite definite isn't he? I particularly like the bit about comparisons, reminds me a bit of Trump's favourite response when someone gets a bit sharp with him 'oh that's a nasty question/woman/university/democrat' but doesn't actually respond to the point. Tim does exactly what Ardern says the critics will do... Yup, vehemently caustic, but without a lot of actual real critique.

So maybe he really doesn't have anything? Except vitriol? Which is sad really...

(04-06-2025, 07:38 AM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: But  heisenberg, that's just it. There's no meat in that piece. Just vitriol. Where's the critique of her failures in governance?

Could he not find any?

(04-06-2025, 10:01 AM)zqwerty Wrote: Yeah I just don't get the hatred towards Jacinda, at the very least she was adequate as a Prime Minister and I would say she was very much better than adequate.

I don't know what's wrong with the people who seem to not like her but the hatred involved is beyond credibility, there is something else in the background.

Maybe old fashioned bitter and twisted males from the last century hating a young woman who was better at the job than all the old bastards put together.