(12-12-2024, 08:56 AM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: I am swearing too, but not at oven racks. At the unbelievable actions of  Israel in bombing Syria, as a 'defensive act' mere days after the Syrians finally managed to oust their own despotic tyrant.

I just do not understand human beings some days, despite being one.

(12-12-2024, 10:39 AM)kiwimade64 Wrote: Still no excuse, zqwerty.  Give the Syrians a decent chance to have the country they want.  All these other countries sniffing around, like the USA, Israel, Lebanon, Iran and the like are only after what they can get out of it.  All these offers to help are not being done out of the goodness of their hearts.  There's money to be made and they know it.  As for Netanyahu, he's facing the Haig for corruption charges bought before the war.  There are arrest warrants out for him and the Haz Ballah (sp) leader.  Why not arrest at least Netanyahu while they have him.  It infuriates me so many people have suffered regardless of who started it.  There will be one very angry generation of children who grow into adults with missing limbs, mental health issues and the like. There will be retribution further down the years.

(12-12-2024, 09:14 AM)zqwerty Wrote: They're bombing weapons supplies etc of the ousted regime to prevent abandoned weapons, machinery falling into unknown possible enemy hands.

(12-12-2024, 12:30 PM)zqwerty Wrote: Listen to this Lilith7, try to follow the lyrics as the song is playing.

This is the feeling of the Middle East, trust girted artistes, they are able to transport you to a time and place.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NlfYpZ6Aqc

https://genius.com/Patti-smith-where-duty-calls-lyrics

Song is dedicated to american soldiers killed by a terrorist attack in Beirut, Lebanon in 1983. (Spence Rudden 2007: 45)
-This was written in memory of those who lost their lives in the
Destruction of the First Battalion, 8th Marine Headquarters, Beirut, October 23, 1983. Two hundred and forty-one marines, sailors, and
Soldiers on a peacekeeping mission perished with their assassin

(12-12-2024, 12:53 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote:

(12-12-2024, 09:14 AM)zqwerty Wrote: They're bombing weapons supplies etc of the ousted regime to prevent abandoned weapons, machinery falling into unknown possible enemy hands.

So they say. I say it's terrorism. Intergenerational trauma making victimes into monsters.

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And the allies who got together to solve the Jewish problem by creating a homeland smack bang in the lands of an already established population have no responsibility for the results? Other than to profit from the arms industry profits, and internal financial investment their economies rely on.

Wars are not inevitable. They are prosecuted because someone benefits. They stop when the costs come back to bite those prosecuting them. And that is never the ordinary citizens. Never the women and children, the seniors. Never the doctors and aid workers and journos. Not even the soldiers. And thanks to the science of epigenetics we now know how these scars travel down the generations and pollute the lives of the future yet unborn children. Sins of the fathers, to carry on that bliblical reference.

But still we stand by and let the monsters pursue their agendas. Madness indeed.

(12-12-2024, 02:58 PM)zqwerty Wrote: I know you and many others are saying that war is some sort of outside conspiracy or type of behaviour induced by malign forces without the participants best interests at heart but I am saying that this urge, instinct, extant behaviour is just built into some groups by programming over long periods of time and is part of their psyche which they indulge in at will.

You can't stop the warring because it is part of their whole being which has become intrinsic over time.

(12-12-2024, 02:58 PM)zqwerty Wrote: I know you and many others are saying that war is some sort of outside conspiracy or type of behaviour induced by malign forces without the participants best interests at heart but I am saying that this urge, instinct, extant behaviour is just built into some groups by programming over long periods of time and is part of their psyche which they indulge in at will.

You can't stop the warring because it is part of their whole being which has become intrinsic over time.

(12-12-2024, 01:55 PM)kiwimade64 Wrote: Well, that's another Furry Feind dispatched by the Furry One   No dinner for him tonight as his tummy is as round and full as a drum.