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Another article about the protestors. - Praktica - 20-02-2022
It discusses freedom.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/127815331/do-the-protesters-in-wellington-even-know-what-freedom-means
Andrea Vance also has an interesting take on the protest.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/127798260/the-trumpism-spilling-out-onto-parliaments-lawn-is-the-new-virus
RE: Another article about the protestors. - ObeWan - 20-02-2022
Hard to disagree with Andrea Vance, and for me this was the passage that got me:
“
The freedom convoy is not the dispossessed and disenfranchised of America’s Rust Belt. It is frustrating in the extreme to see these people portrayed as the innocent or misguided victims of a cruel state, or economic disparity.
They exercised their freedom of choice and rejected the vaccine. Now they are throwing a tantrum on the lawn because they don’t like the consequences.
‘Good Kiwis’ do not intimidate schoolkids, make death threats, terrorise neighbourhoods, damage public property and bring small businesses to their knees. This is not our Springbok tour moment, and these people are not noble freedom fighters. This is Trumpism.
“
Not ‘good kiwis’
RE: Another article about the protestors. - Olive - 20-02-2022
Both very good pieces. It's time to stop calling them "protesters" though, they are insurrectionists and occupiers.
RE: Another article about the protestors. - Oh_hunnihunni - 20-02-2022
Mr Coster on Q&A right now.
RE: Another article about the protestors. - Magoo - 20-02-2022
i thought this was well constructed
"Around this group of ordinary folk, there are nefarious forces at work. Well-known agitators continue to spread misinformation. They promote a narrative that the Government is against its own people, and that Kiwis need to rise up and reclaim their rights, using whatever force or means is necessary."
RE: Another article about the protestors. - Lilith7 - 20-02-2022
This from the Andrea Vance article says it all for me:
"Chant hare krishna, grow herbs, practice yoga and smoke the peace pipe all you like. The minute you pitch your tent next to a swastika, a noose swinging for politicians and journalists, and extremist Kelvyn Alp, you are aligned."
Either those brandishing swastikas should have been immediately removed by the other groups, or the others should have withdrawn & allowed the world to see their nazi hatred & ignorance.
RE: Another article about the protestors. - jim157 - 20-02-2022
(20-02-2022, 01:51 PM)Lilith7 Wrote: This from the Andrea Vance article says it all for me:like this you mean
"Chant hare krishna, grow herbs, practice yoga and smoke the peace pipe all you like. The minute you pitch your tent next to a swastika, a noose swinging for politicians and journalists, and extremist Kelvyn Alp, you are aligned."
Either those brandishing swastikas should have been immediately removed by the other groups, or the others should have withdrawn & allowed the world to see their nazi hatred & ignorance.
https://youtu.be/g9rsxFaq6Ig
RE: Another article about the protestors. - Magoo - 20-02-2022
correct me if im wrong and i might be i only watched a minute of it
but was there a swaztika somewhere there?
i didnt see one
relevance your honour
so stipulated
bailiff
kick him in the balls.
RE: Another article about the protestors. - Oh_hunnihunni - 20-02-2022
Those who lie down with dogs get up with fleas...
RE: Another article about the protestors. - king1 - 20-02-2022
(20-02-2022, 03:08 PM)jim157 Wrote:I imagine Comrade probably has a very different meaning in Hungary... Context is everything...(20-02-2022, 01:51 PM)Lilith7 Wrote: This from the Andrea Vance article says it all for me:like this you mean
"Chant hare krishna, grow herbs, practice yoga and smoke the peace pipe all you like. The minute you pitch your tent next to a swastika, a noose swinging for politicians and journalists, and extremist Kelvyn Alp, you are aligned."
Either those brandishing swastikas should have been immediately removed by the other groups, or the others should have withdrawn & allowed the world to see their nazi hatred & ignorance.
https://youtu.be/g9rsxFaq6Ig
yep it does - In the context of Hungary I would call that owning it
Quote:
- The Hungarian word for comrade is elvtárs; elv means 'principle' or 'tenet' while társ means 'fellow'. As the Hungarian Working People's Party gradually gained power after the Second World War, the word displaced all prior titles like úr ("Mister") and became the title used generally for everyone except for people who were obviously not "tenet fellows" e.g. those who committed political crime against the socialist state. After the democratic transition the word became obsolete and it is used derogatorily to address politicians on the political left.
RE: Another article about the protestors. - Magoo - 20-02-2022
from memory it (the word comrade) has its roots in malay, or indonesian?
was adopted by the Bolsheviks back when they were agitating
and has been woven into communism since.
the usual rider may be applied to that post
it may contain some or many untruths wild guesses and divine prophecy
in lieu of research.
RE: Another article about the protestors. - Lilith7 - 20-02-2022
(20-02-2022, 03:08 PM)jim157 Wrote:Not unless you can find a swastika in that footage, no. But any chance will do apparently.(20-02-2022, 01:51 PM)Lilith7 Wrote: This from the Andrea Vance article says it all for me:like this you mean
"Chant hare krishna, grow herbs, practice yoga and smoke the peace pipe all you like. The minute you pitch your tent next to a swastika, a noose swinging for politicians and journalists, and extremist Kelvyn Alp, you are aligned."
Either those brandishing swastikas should have been immediately removed by the other groups, or the others should have withdrawn & allowed the world to see their nazi hatred & ignorance.
https://youtu.be/g9rsxFaq6Ig
RE: Another article about the protestors. - king1 - 20-02-2022
did the nazis even use comrade? wasn't that a communism thing
RE: Another article about the protestors. - Magoo - 20-02-2022
read above magoo post for a brief synopsis of the word its origins and usage.
RE: Another article about the protestors. - Olive - 20-02-2022
I'd always assumed it was derived from French but according to Wiki:
"The term comrade generally means 'mate', 'colleague', or 'ally', and derives from the Spanish and Portuguese, term camarada, literally meaning 'chamber mate', from Latin camera, meaning 'chamber' or 'room'. It may also specifically mean "fellow soldier""