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The American 'sanctity of life' laws - Lilith7 - 04-11-2022
I woke up early this morning & couldn't get back to sleep, & started thinking about the current situation in Texas & the other anti abortion states. I remembered a while ago, coming across a joking post in which the idea was put forward that, if these laws are genuinely about the sanctity of life then surely they must also be aware of the fact that male masturbation wastes that precious material responsible for starting life, sperm. And that therefore, very clearly male masturbation must be made illegal.
It was a non serious idea, but when we consider how far technology has advanced since then, it can be seen that constant surveillance of men & boys (especially teenage boys) can & must be undertaken. And it really needn't be that difficult.
If the East German Stasi could manage to spy on its citizens with hidden listening devices back in those times, imagine what could be done today.
Tiny disguised cameras in every man & boy's room ( & of course, in toilets could be used) or drones with a camera could be deployed to track each male for 24 hour surveillance to follow each individual at all times. With, of course, an extremely loud alarm just in case it might look as though the person under surveillance might be about to waste that precious material; because naturally the sanctity of life must take precedence over the privacy of any individual.
That would of course, include the men responsible for making these 'sanctity of life' laws since they surely wouldn't want to exempt themselves from such an important law.
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I believe that American women should immediately approach their state law makers & inform them that this must immediately be done as a matter of urgency, in order to preserve the sanctity of life, & naturally, since anyone in those states may report any woman they suspect of having an abortion to authorities, the same will apply to any woman who suspects any man of wasting the sanctity of life.
I wonder how long it might be before their laws change....
RE: The American 'sanctity of life' laws - Oldfellah - 05-11-2022
So you are saying that American men are a bunch of wankers?
RE: The American 'sanctity of life' laws - Lilith7 - 05-11-2022
(05-11-2022, 09:30 AM)Oldfellah Wrote: So you are saying that American men are a bunch of wankers?
"You may think so. I couldn't possibly comment."
Francis Urquhart
RE: The American 'sanctity of life' laws - Zurdo - 05-11-2022
What about all the eggs flushed down the toilet ?
RE: The American 'sanctity of life' laws - Lilith7 - 05-11-2022
(05-11-2022, 11:03 AM)Zurdo Wrote: What about all the eggs flushed down the toilet ?
That would involve massive surveillance of every person of an age to have the capability to reproduce - & what of those naturally occurring miscarriages?
Perhaps America might consider how it could best prosecute Mother Nature...
RE: The American 'sanctity of life' laws - Oldfellah - 05-11-2022
They will have to test the water quality at sewerage works lol
RE: The American 'sanctity of life' laws - C_T_Russell - 11-11-2022
Its quite funny how we have people criticizing Jacinda here for our "liberal" abortion laws and yet in the US under Biden we see Abortion becoming illegal in more states, and many people protesting, it used to be the opposite here not that long ago.
Seems its not really a federal issue, but now a state issue, so you can see what states are anti-abortion. Things get messy real fast with US politics.
RE: The American 'sanctity of life' laws - Lilith7 - 11-11-2022
Right To Life
By Marge Piercy
A woman is not a pear tree
thrusting her fruit in mindless fecundity
into the world. Even pear trees bear
heavily one year and rest and grow the next.
An orchard gone wild drops few warm rotting
fruit in the grass but the trees stretch
high and wiry gifting the birds forty
feet up among inch long thorns
broken atavistically from the smooth wood.
A woman is not a basket you place
your buns in to keep them warm. Not a brood
hen you can slip duck eggs under.
Not the purse holding the coins of your
descendants till you spend them in wars.
Not a bank where your genes gather interest
and interesting mutations in the tainted
rain, any more than you are.
You plant corn and you harvest
it to eat or sell. You put the lamb
in the pasture to fatten and haul it in to
butcher for chops. You slice the mountain
in two for a road and gouge the high plains
for coal and the waters run muddy for
miles and years. Fish die but you do not
call them yours unless you wished to eat them.
Now you legislate mineral rights in a woman.
You lay claim to her pastures for grazing,
fields for growing babies like iceberg
lettuce. You value children so dearly
that none ever go hungry, none weep
with no one to tend them when mothers
work, none lack fresh fruit,
none chew lead or cough to death and your
orphanages are empty. Every noon the best
restaurants serve poor children steaks.
At this moment at nine o’clock a partera
is performing a table top abortion on an
unwed mother in Texas who can’t get
Medicaid any longer. In five days she will die
of tetanus and her little daughter will cry
and be taken away. Next door a husband
and wife are sticking pins in the son
they did not want. They will explain
for hours how wicked he is,
how he wants discipline.
We are all born of woman, in the rose
of the womb we suckled our mother’s blood
and every baby born has a right to love
like a seedling to sun.
Every baby born
unloved, unwanted, is a bill that will come
due in twenty years with interest, an anger
that must find a target, a pain that will
beget pain. A decade downstream a child
screams, a woman falls, a synagogue is torched,
a firing squad is summoned, a button
is pushed and the world burns.
I will choose what enters me, what becomes
of my flesh. Without choice, no politics,
no ethics lives.
I am not your cornfield,
not your uranium mine, not your calf
for fattening, not your cow for milking.
You may not use me as your factory.
Priests and legislators do not hold shares
in my womb or my mind.
This is my body. If I give it to you
I want it back. My life
is a non-negotiable demand.
(11-11-2022, 11:58 AM)C_T_Russell Wrote: Its quite funny how we have people criticizing Jacinda here for our "liberal" abortion laws and yet in the US under Biden we see Abortion becoming illegal in more states, and many people protesting, it used to be the opposite here not that long ago.
Seems its not really a federal issue, but now a state issue, so you can see what states are anti-abortion. Things get messy real fast with US politics.
There are some very backward, ignorant & misogynistic people behind those changing laws & its down to mere chance that they moved to take away women's rights over their bodies while Biden is president.
I read somewhere that those states are organising quickly to help transport women out of state should they need an abortion.
RE: The American 'sanctity of life' laws - Oh_hunnihunni - 11-11-2022
Sanctity of life huh? Except if you are on death row? Or the target of American assassination squads?
RE: The American 'sanctity of life' laws - Oldfellah - 11-11-2022
Too much to read, where is the abridged version?
RE: The American 'sanctity of life' laws - king1 - 11-11-2022
(11-11-2022, 04:38 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Sanctity of life huh? Except if you are on death row? Or the target of American assassination squads?
Which begs the question of which hypocritical states have banned abortions yet allow the death penalty... hint: most of them...
Quote:Twenty-seven states across America still have the death penalty.
They are Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky. Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah and Wyoming.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/death-penalty-us-states-map-b1932960.html
Quote:ACTIVE ABORTION BANS
Alabama, Arkansas, Arizona, Idaho, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas and West Virginia have total or near-total abortion bans, according to Guttmacher Institute, an abortion rights research group.
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/us-abortion-restrictions-mount-after-overturn-roe-v-wade-2022-10-04/
RE: The American 'sanctity of life' laws - Lilith7 - 11-11-2022
(11-11-2022, 04:38 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Sanctity of life huh? Except if you are on death row? Or the target of American assassination squads?
No doubt that's 'different.'
