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methane science accord - the science is now clear - C_T_Russell - 24-09-2023
Even the corrupt IPCC is now saying that methane emissions are not as significant.
Say no to emissions pricing on livestock.
https://methane-accord.co.nz/
RE: methane science accord - the science is now clear - Oh_hunnihunni - 24-09-2023
Why? Because methane is a shorter lived gas. No a safe one, just a shorter lived.
More eye rolling.
RE: methane science accord - the science is now clear - king1 - 24-09-2023
and we also need a facepalm emoji...
RE: methane science accord - the science is now clear - Praktica - 24-09-2023
(24-09-2023, 06:10 PM)C_T_Russell Wrote: Even the corrupt IPCC is now saying that methane emissions are not as significant.
Say no to emissions pricing on livestock.
https://methane-accord.co.nz/
Huh - groundswell...people whose muddy gumboots have more brains than they do...
RE: methane science accord - the science is now clear - Oh_hunnihunni - 24-09-2023
I know I shouldn't, but I am just so undisciplined.
RE: methane science accord - the science is now clear - R2x1 - 25-09-2023
At least methane stops some UV, blonde or red haired people can take a little comfort from that on sunny days, dunno what it does for solar farms though.
RE: methane science accord - the science is now clear - C_T_Russell - 25-09-2023
(24-09-2023, 07:08 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Why? Because methane is a shorter lived gas. No a safe one, just a shorter lived.
More eye rolling.
Shorter lived and carbon neutral from the grass.
Guess what else makes methane?
Forests
Compost heaps
Rubbish dumps
Wilderbeasts in Africa
List goes on.
(24-09-2023, 08:04 PM)Praktica Wrote:They are the people who put food on your table and keep this economy running.(24-09-2023, 06:10 PM)C_T_Russell Wrote: Even the corrupt IPCC is now saying that methane emissions are not as significant.
Say no to emissions pricing on livestock.
https://methane-accord.co.nz/
Huh - groundswell...people whose muddy gumboots have more brains than they do...
Show them some respect.
RE: methane science accord - the science is now clear - harm_less - 26-09-2023
(25-09-2023, 10:04 PM)C_T_Russell Wrote:The industrial scale farmers that make up Groundswill are typically overusing synthetic fertiliser and discharging effluent and gaseous emissions into our environment in their efforts to put food on 40 million people's tables worldwide. If they were conducting their farming in a sustainable way they would be worthy of respect but they're not.
(24-09-2023, 08:04 PM)Praktica Wrote: Huh - groundswell...people whose muddy gumboots have more brains than they do...They are the people who put food on your table and keep this economy running.
Show them some respect.
There is nothing sustainable about maximising dairy outputs which are then dried using carbon heavy energy supplies with the minimally improved value end products shipped across the world to have added value processing carried out in other countries. That is the definition of a price taking low tech industry and our dairy producers must improve that situation before precision fermentation kills their livelihood. Working smarter rather than harder is the solution. In not doing so they have the intellect that Praktica is implying.
RE: methane science accord - the science is now clear - Oh_hunnihunni - 26-09-2023
(25-09-2023, 10:04 PM)C_T_Russell Wrote:(24-09-2023, 07:08 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Why? Because methane is a shorter lived gas. No a safe one, just a shorter lived.
More eye rolling.
Shorter lived and carbon neutral from the grass.
Guess what else makes methane?
Forests
Compost heaps
Rubbish dumps
Wilderbeasts in Africa
List goes on.
(24-09-2023, 08:04 PM)Praktica Wrote: Huh - groundswell...people whose muddy gumboots have more brains than they do...They are the people who put food on your table and keep this economy running.
Show them some respect.
Speak for yourself. Lots of us grow our own, and most of our food comes from overseas, so pull your head in!
RE: methane science accord - the science is now clear - harm_less - 26-09-2023
This encapsulates my thoughts pretty well. Working smarter rather than flogging the same old horse.
https://www.farmersweekly.co.nz/opinion/dear-chris-ignore-the-deer-cullers-dog/
RE: methane science accord - the science is now clear - C_T_Russell - 26-09-2023
(26-09-2023, 10:54 AM)harm_less Wrote:(25-09-2023, 10:04 PM)C_T_Russell Wrote:The industrial scale farmers that make up Groundswill are typically overusing synthetic fertiliser and discharging effluent and gaseous emissions into our environment in their efforts to put food on 40 million people's tables worldwide. If they were conducting their farming in a sustainable way they would be worthy of respect but they're not.
They are the people who put food on your table and keep this economy running.
Show them some respect.
There is nothing sustainable about maximising dairy outputs which are then dried using carbon heavy energy supplies with the minimally improved value end products shipped across the world to have added value processing carried out in other countries. That is the definition of a price taking low tech industry and our dairy producers must improve that situation before precision fermentation kills their livelihood. Working smarter rather than harder is the solution. In not doing so they have the intellect that Praktica is implying.
Why doesn't the government target the fertilizer industry instead then?
I agree there is far too much dairy and lots of land that is better suited to sheep in Canterbury is being converted to dairy with huge irrigation systems.
We don't need that, ironically this government wants to price emissions on sheep. It's so laughable. Thr irony here is that products such as wool are facing a bit of a comeback and are being pushed as a carbon friendly alternative to synthetic fibres.
We should be supporting and encouraging sheep farming, not making it something that's undesirable.
Lamb meat is also way tastier than beef!