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pitfalls of wind power - C_T_Russell - 10-10-2023
Does NZ have a recycling program for all these shitty turbines?
Looks like they have a short life and cand be disposed of easily.
Overseas, they are just piling them up and they end up getting buried.
I think they are made of carbon fibre/fibreglass composite materials.
We will be facing this issue in the next decade I expect.
https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/sweetwater-wind-turbine-blades-dump/
RE: pitfalls of wind power - king1 - 10-10-2023
the issue there is the company recycling them not doing what they were paid to do...
RE: pitfalls of wind power - harm_less - 11-10-2023
And then there's the current advances in this industry: https://www.energy.gov/eere/wind/articles/carbon-rivers-makes-wind-turbine-blade-recycling-and-upcycling-reality-support
RE: pitfalls of wind power - king1 - 11-10-2023
(11-10-2023, 08:33 AM)harm_less Wrote: And then there's the current advances in this industry: https://www.energy.gov/eere/wind/articles/carbon-rivers-makes-wind-turbine-blade-recycling-and-upcycling-reality-support
as long as that company isn't just a reincarnation of that other company...
RE: pitfalls of wind power - harm_less - 11-10-2023
(11-10-2023, 08:39 AM)king1 Wrote:Where there's a financial opportunity industries will step up to gain from it. The public scrutiny of such initiatives will ensure their authenticity and environmental credentials. A similar opportunity has been pursued by the recycling facilities that are being developed for Li-Ion batteries.(11-10-2023, 08:33 AM)harm_less Wrote: And then there's the current advances in this industry: https://www.energy.gov/eere/wind/articles/carbon-rivers-makes-wind-turbine-blade-recycling-and-upcycling-reality-support
as long as that company isn't just a reincarnation of that other company...
RE: pitfalls of wind power - C_T_Russell - 12-10-2023
(11-10-2023, 08:47 AM)harm_less Wrote:(11-10-2023, 08:39 AM)king1 Wrote: as long as that company isn't just a reincarnation of that other company...Where there's a financial opportunity industries will step up to gain from it. The public scrutiny of such initiatives will ensure their authenticity and environmental credentials. A similar opportunity has been pursued by the recycling facilities that are being developed for Li-Ion batteries.
Tesla is supposed to have battery recycling at their gigafactory eventually which would make it a closed loop.
In regards to the wind turbines, I don't know exactly how fibreglass gets recycled, and if so into what?
I've seen several stories over the year about the disposal of the blades, it's not an isolated case.
RE: pitfalls of wind power - harm_less - 12-10-2023
(12-10-2023, 09:32 AM)C_T_Russell Wrote:Not Tesla's gigafactory but the CEO is JB Straubel who was one Tesla's founders. https://www.redwoodmaterials.com/(11-10-2023, 08:47 AM)harm_less Wrote: Where there's a financial opportunity industries will step up to gain from it. The public scrutiny of such initiatives will ensure their authenticity and environmental credentials. A similar opportunity has been pursued by the recycling facilities that are being developed for Li-Ion batteries.
Tesla is supposed to have battery recycling at their gigafactory eventually which would make it a closed loop.
In regards to the wind turbines, I don't know exactly how fibreglass gets recycled, and if so into what?
I've seen several stories over the year about the disposal of the blades, it's not an isolated case.
Also https://www.cellcycle.co.uk/ and numerous other start-ups internationally.
As far as using recycled fibreglass read my linked article.
RE: pitfalls of wind power - C_T_Russell - 12-10-2023
(12-10-2023, 10:38 AM)harm_less Wrote:Yes I've heard about him too, his company looks like a good startup.(12-10-2023, 09:32 AM)C_T_Russell Wrote: Tesla is supposed to have battery recycling at their gigafactory eventually which would make it a closed loop.Not Tesla's gigafactory but the CEO is JB Straubel who was one Tesla's founders. https://www.redwoodmaterials.com/
In regards to the wind turbines, I don't know exactly how fibreglass gets recycled, and if so into what?
I've seen several stories over the year about the disposal of the blades, it's not an isolated case.
Also https://www.cellcycle.co.uk/ and numerous other start-ups internationally.
As far as using recycled fibreglass read my linked article.
I was pretty sure I read somewhere that tesla was also planning to perform I'm house battery recycling at their Texas gigagactory. It would make sense if they did, but will probably be a while before they begin.
Lithium is a valuable resource with incentives to recycle and the Anti EV brigade keep making a big deal about it when it's a nonexistent issue.
RE: pitfalls of wind power - harm_less - 12-10-2023
(12-10-2023, 07:58 PM)C_T_Russell Wrote:That commonly repeated bit of misinformation and many more debunked in this video. UK based but much of it is equally applicable to NZ(12-10-2023, 10:38 AM)harm_less Wrote: Not Tesla's gigafactory but the CEO is JB Straubel who was one Tesla's founders. https://www.redwoodmaterials.com/Yes I've heard about him too, his company looks like a good startup.
Also https://www.cellcycle.co.uk/ and numerous other start-ups internationally.
As far as using recycled fibreglass read my linked article.
I was pretty sure I read somewhere that tesla was also planning to perform I'm house battery recycling at their Texas gigagactory. It would make sense if they did, but will probably be a while before they begin.
Lithium is a valuable resource with incentives to recycle and the Anti EV brigade keep making a big deal about it when it's a nonexistent issue.
RE: pitfalls of wind power - R2x1 - 12-10-2023
My word, with all that oil being dispensed it is absolutely certain that the local snakes will neither squeak nor rust.