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Google ditching chromecast - nzoomed - 07-08-2024
Didn't see this coming.
https://www.theverge.com/2024/8/6/24214471/google-chromecast-line-discontinued
RE: Google ditching chromecast - king1 - 08-08-2024
I suppose that was always going to happen once casting technologies was well and truly embedded in new devices. I only ever really saw them as a stopgap measure for non-smart TVs
RE: Google ditching chromecast - Oh_hunnihunni - 08-08-2024
Checking tv ads yesterday I see most of them seem to be google equipped. Please don't tell me these ones can answer back when I yell at them.
RE: Google ditching chromecast - nzoomed - 08-08-2024
(08-08-2024, 08:21 AM)king1 Wrote: I suppose that was always going to happen once casting technologies was well and truly embedded in new devices. I only ever really saw them as a stopgap measure for non-smart TVs
Yes I agree, although I find that even fairly recent TVs can either be unreliable when casting or even stop working altogether. I've seen a few issues on Android TVs that go buggy and glitchy as hell and end up having to perform a factory reset.
The big thing is that many smart TVs go out of date so fast and either the apps loose support or perform slowly.
Looks like their Google TV box is going to replace the chromecast line, but would be cool if they could have made something just as slim and compact enough as a chromecast.
I've installed a ton of the things as an upgrade on older TVs.
RE: Google ditching chromecast - Wainuitech - 08-08-2024
The Google TV HD They show is actually quite good, basically, you can turn an Older style "Dumb" TV into a smart TV, all you need is a wireless internet connection.
I've installed a couple of apps from the Play Store on the bedroom TV. One thing it's not quite so good at is the voice control .
By the time you have to correct it, it's quicker to just use the remote for what you want to do.
RE: Google ditching chromecast - Agent_24 - 08-08-2024
It still astonishes me how many people will willingly install a device in their home that sends everything they say back to some mega-corp to do who-knows-what with it.
RE: Google ditching chromecast - Wainuitech - 09-08-2024
(08-08-2024, 10:47 PM)Agent_24 Wrote: It still astonishes me how many people will willingly install a device in their home that sends everything they say back to some mega-corp to do who-knows-what with it.
Just like your Phones eh
Both Apple and Android. Most modern TV's have some sort of smart Software, which sends data back regardless, so no difference really.
RE: Google ditching chromecast - king1 - 09-08-2024
(09-08-2024, 08:27 AM)Wainuitech Wrote:(08-08-2024, 10:47 PM)Agent_24 Wrote: It still astonishes me how many people will willingly install a device in their home that sends everything they say back to some mega-corp to do who-knows-what with it.
Just like your Phones eh
Most modern TV's have some sort of smart Software, which sends data back regardless, so no difference really.
Samsung TVs are rather bad for that,
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RE: Google ditching chromecast - Oh_hunnihunni - 09-08-2024
They - whoever they are - are entirely welcome to listen to my rants at the idiots who show up on my screens. I really do not give a flying fuck what they do with that material.
I do find it highly amusing though when one nation complains bitterly about anothers spying habits while maintaining an excellent spy industry of their own. And then makes political hay out of the occasional well publicised swap of spy personnel.
Tik tok human race, your time is running out...
RE: Google ditching chromecast - Agent_24 - 09-08-2024
(09-08-2024, 08:27 AM)Wainuitech Wrote:(08-08-2024, 10:47 PM)Agent_24 Wrote: It still astonishes me how many people will willingly install a device in their home that sends everything they say back to some mega-corp to do who-knows-what with it.
Just like your Phones eh
Most modern TV's have some sort of smart Software, which sends data back regardless, so no difference really.
Speak for yourself. No iPhone here and I won't get another Android. Tried that when my N900 broke but wouldn't again. Next phone will be something like a PinePhone or anything else that runs plain Linux. Google is a privacy nightmare and can GTFO.
Same goes for TVs. Would never buy a smart TV. What's the point? I have an HTPC (running Linux) I can hook up to any display device, doesn't even have to be a TV. Speakers can be a separate HiFi system etc.
RE: Google ditching chromecast - Oh_hunnihunni - 09-08-2024
I understand the worry about the malignant use of identity data, but surely this 'privacy' thing is seriously overhyped. Personalisation is a tool to sell stuff, not a lot more. The Big Brother idea is probably valid, but no single witholding of personal data is going to stop that train. Reminds me a bit of that old bloke trying to stop the sea advancing on his toes. So long as data is money, we are going to be harvested, be it loyalty cards, genetic tracing, our physical location and movements, shopping habits, criminal history, medical status - it is all grist to the mill of a bunch of people who also put their pants on the same way we do.
We are not unique. We are not special. We are just people, like everyone else.
RE: Google ditching chromecast - king1 - 09-08-2024
on the subject of privacy, I read somewhere about a bloke in the US whose vehicle insurance premiums increased threefold - turned out the car computer had been uploading all sorts of stats about his driving (obviously bad), the car manufacturer had sent the data to some company for aggregation or some such, and his insurance company had bought this data from this other company... all perfectly legal...
So a very good reason not to share any more data than is absolutely necessary...
RE: Google ditching chromecast - Agent_24 - 09-08-2024
(09-08-2024, 01:26 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: I understand the worry about the malignant use of identity data, but surely this 'privacy' thing is seriously overhyped. Personalisation is a tool to sell stuff, not a lot more. The Big Brother idea is probably valid, but no single witholding of personal data is going to stop that train. Reminds me a bit of that old bloke trying to stop the sea advancing on his toes. So long as data is money, we are going to be harvested, be it loyalty cards, genetic tracing, our physical location and movements, shopping habits, criminal history, medical status - it is all grist to the mill of a bunch of people who also put their pants on the same way we do.
We are not unique. We are not special. We are just people, like everyone else.
Until you aren't.
Situations can change rapidly, such as with the US overturning abortion rights.
https://www.npr.org/2022/05/10/1097482967/roe-v-wade-supreme-court-abortion-period-apps
With at least one state looking at classifying abortion as homicide, the potential is there for someone to suddenly become a criminal just because of a law change. Suddenly your data becomes incriminating evidence over something that should never be an issue.
Not to mention the number of serious data breaches that occur, because not only do too many corporations hoard too much data about you, they always seem to have flaws in their security. Here's a recent one:
https://www.tomsguide.com/computing/online-security/29-billion-hit-in-one-of-largest-data-breaches-ever-full-names-addresses-and-ssns-exposed
Sure, the companies themselves may not do anything malicious with your data, targeted ads are probably not the worst thing in the world, but hackers or a nefarious government may well do something untoward.
Given how easy it is for data to be exchanged (and stolen) in the digital age, I'd say privacy is nowhere near hyped enough.
(09-08-2024, 03:12 PM)king1 Wrote: on the subject of privacy, I read somewhere about a bloke in the US whose vehicle insurance premiums increased threefold - turned out the car computer had been uploading all sorts of stats about his driving (obviously bad), the car manufacturer had sent the data to some company for aggregation or some such, and his insurance company had bought this data from this other company... all perfectly legal...
So a very good reason not to share any more data than is absolutely necessary...
Exactly, never share anything you don't have to.
RE: Google ditching chromecast - Zurdo - 09-08-2024
I guess my Chromecast won't stop tomorrow, it'll run until it dies, then I get some fancy new gadget. Chromecast has been great, it's allowed me to ditch live TV completely, so I can watch what I want, when I want. Harvest all the data on a grumpy old man watching underwear adds you want.
RE: Google ditching chromecast - Oh_hunnihunni - 09-08-2024
When the political climate changes there is nothing the individual can do about it. You go with the flow or against it, and swallow the consequences.
As many populations have discovered throughout human history.
Change is inevitable, not all of it good. The trick is to survive.
RE: Google ditching chromecast - Olive - 09-08-2024
(09-08-2024, 05:42 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: When the political climate changes there is nothing the individual can do about it. You go with the flow or against it, and swallow the consequences.
As many populations have discovered throughout human history.
Change is inevitable, not all of it good. The trick is to survive.
Yes. I have come around to the view that 100% privacy is an impossible ambition. We ordinary citizens have no hope of securing our data, the most we can aspire to is not embarrassing ourselves in real life or on social media.
RE: Google ditching chromecast - Oh_hunnihunni - 10-08-2024
Unless of course embarrassing ourselves is worth the blushes!