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ACT regulatory standards bill - Lilith7 - 03-01-2025
Sneaking it in under the radar....their third try.
The words 'sneaky, devious & underhanded' come to mind whenever ACT does or tries to do, anything.
https://www.legislation.govt.nz/bill/member/2021/0027/latest/whole.html
The Dangerous bill flying under the radar...
https://e-tangata.co.nz/comment-and-analysis/the-dangerous-bill-flying-under-the-radar/
RE: ACT regulatory standards bill - zqwerty - 03-01-2025
Never trust ACT or the Business Roundtable, they are trying to turn NZ into a big production machine for goods to export overseas with all of the ordinary people as worker slaves overseen by these wonderful examples of human beings like David Seymour.
Every time I look at his feigned innocent naive face I want to vomit. He is such a weasel.
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-e&q=David+Seymour
They both look as if they have been taken over by aliens.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360502591/what-we-know-about-david-seymours-love-life
RE: ACT regulatory standards bill - king1 - 03-01-2025
(03-01-2025, 05:56 PM)zqwerty Wrote: They both look as if they have been taken over by aliens.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360502591/what-we-know-about-david-seymours-love-life
This guy?
(Edgar the bug guy from MIB)
![[Image: Edgar-men-in-black.jpg]](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/images/9/90/Edgar-men-in-black.jpg)
RE: ACT regulatory standards bill - zqwerty - 04-01-2025
Vincent D'Onofrio, a great actor, I consider that part he played in M.I.B. as one of the best impersonations I have ever seen, he was great in Full Metal Jacket as well.
RE: ACT regulatory standards bill - Olive - 04-01-2025
There's a very good piece by Anne Salmond in Newsroom this morning.
https://newsroom.co.nz/2025/01/04/anne-salmond-hunger-games-in-the-beehive/
RE: ACT regulatory standards bill - Lilith7 - 04-01-2025
Apart from Muldoon setting up the then DPB, I'm unconvinced that the National party ever had a sense of decency. And nor am I inclined to believe anything Roger Douglas said.
it was not always like this.
It does not have to be like this.
Anne Salmond is right - we do need to embrace diversity, & find better ways to do everything. I think a first step should be to ban very wealthy people from entering politics & perhaps the second might be to make voting compulsory.
There should never be such a gap between rich & poor & we need to address that. And we can & should be, doing far better in healthcare & housing.
RE: ACT regulatory standards bill - harm_less - 04-01-2025
It definitely doesn't help that we've got a politically inept and spineless PM being run circles around by two much more experienced co-leaders with apparently unrestricted powers to implement whatever screwball legislation they dream up, particularly at the behest of their overlords in ACT's case.
The usual checks and balances that should be coming into play to ensure New Zealand retains a constructive course into the future are being pushed aside while Luxon seems more interested in staging his latest selfie post than actually doing the job we pay him to do. FIGJAM (at Air NZ) by nickname for good reason it seems.
At this stage the next potential brake that could potentially be applied will be mid 2025 when Peters and Seymour exchange the DPM role. Maybe, just maybe Winston will wake up to the power that this will bring him and use it to break the coalition and bring on a snap election. Fingers crossed on that front. New Zealand may well not recover from a full term of this CoC's economic, social and environmental vandalism for decades to come.
RE: ACT regulatory standards bill - Oh_hunnihunni - 04-01-2025
Mr Hooten seems to have recently become a great deal less right, and more left. A continuing trend I celebrate.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/luxon-completely-out-of-his-depth-matthew-hooton/PFV32UVMLZC6TAFOBPDAX7KLRE/
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/economy/cristopher-luxon-in-denial-about-nzs-economy-and-sliding-support-for-his-government-matthew-hooton/WULAIF5F6RH5FHIR2KXH6IXEVE/
And if anyone was in a position to judge, he is...
RE: ACT regulatory standards bill - harm_less - 04-01-2025
(04-01-2025, 01:47 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Mr Hooten seems to have recently become a great deal less right, and more left. A continuing trend I celebrate.Those pieces seem to suggest the Mr Hooten is far more skilled at analyising economic data than our apparently mathematically incompetent PM.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/luxon-completely-out-of-his-depth-matthew-hooton/PFV32UVMLZC6TAFOBPDAX7KLRE/
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/economy/cristopher-luxon-in-denial-about-nzs-economy-and-sliding-support-for-his-government-matthew-hooton/WULAIF5F6RH5FHIR2KXH6IXEVE/
And if anyone was in a position to judge, he is...
Also at what point short of an actually full on armed rebellion is Luxon going to walk away from the woeful job he is doing as PM, at which point they'll probably need to take him away in a straight-jacket.
RE: ACT regulatory standards bill - Lilith7 - 04-01-2025
He certainly gives the impression of being out of his depth, but I sometimes wonder whether that mightn't be a convenient camouflage for Luxon, meaning that he could later claim that he 'had no idea' what was going on - even if that might make him look somewhat stupid, it could also allow him to look innocent.
Devious creatures, politicians. Especially that devious little weasel leading ACT. Heaven help us all if he gets to be DPM.
RE: ACT regulatory standards bill - harm_less - 04-01-2025
(04-01-2025, 02:36 PM)Lilith7 Wrote: He certainly gives the impression of being out of his depth, but I sometimes wonder whether that mightn't be a convenient camouflage for Luxon, meaning that he could later claim that he 'had no idea' what was going on - even if that might make him look somewhat stupid, it could also allow him to look innocent.I'm more inclined to agree with Hooten in the first article in that Luxon lives in his own bubble of ignorance reinforced by his lack of political nous. In other words he's not pretending to look inept, he's actually hopeless at, pretending to be, PM.
Devious creatures, politicians. Especially that devious little weasel leading ACT. Heaven help us all if he gets to be DPM.
RE: ACT regulatory standards bill - zqwerty - 04-01-2025
Don't know why anyone thinks Luxon cares about democratic NZ, a man like him cares only for profits and sharing them with old school mates, he doesn't give a fig for poor working class people to him they are just a means to an end. The religion aspect he mentions is a smoke screen.
Corporate lackeys like Luxon are shockers of the worst kind, his joy is having power over ordinary people.
RE: ACT regulatory standards bill - Lilith7 - 04-01-2025
(04-01-2025, 04:13 PM)zqwerty Wrote: Don't know why anyone thinks Luxon cares about democratic NZ, a man like him cares only for profits and sharing them with old school mates, he doesn't give a fig for poor working class people to him they are just a means to an end. The religion aspect he mentions is a smoke screen.
Corporate lackeys like Luxon are shockers of the worst kind, his joy is having power over ordinary people.
I tend to think that both he & John Key are PM's just for the experience, rather than from any altruism on their part & I'd agree that neither is even slightly interested in the welfare of working class people.
RE: ACT regulatory standards bill - zqwerty - 05-01-2025
Yes I didn't like John Key either, total money-grubber.