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"Maha Moms' - Lilith7 - 14-01-2025
Oh joy - it just gets worse...
Ban 'chem trails', remove fluoride, no artifical colours & 'bathe in sunlight'...
Yeah...what could possible go wrong. I did though, have to wonder about the photo of Kirsten Louelle Gafney, who despite wanting more natural things looks to be all fake tan & toilet teeth - but to be fair, that may be just the photo.
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2025/jan/13/rfk-jr-moms-health-trump
RE: "Maha Moms' - Oh_hunnihunni - 14-01-2025
No artificial colours? Just in food I'm guessing. Seeing most of our colours are fake...
RE: "Maha Moms' - harm_less - 14-01-2025
There's supportable reasons for most of the measures she's proposing but they tend to get lost in the fog of mob mentality and lack of critical thinking of those that the MAHA persuasion suffer from.
RE: "Maha Moms' - Lilith7 - 14-01-2025
(14-01-2025, 12:41 PM)harm_less Wrote: There's supportable reasons for most of the measures she's proposing but they tend to get lost in the fog of mob mentality and lack of critical thinking of those that the MAHA persuasion suffer from.
Yep, exactly. Most of us would be in favour of no artifical stuff in food as far as is safe & practical but - Trump fans appear to have a different view altogether.
On just about everything..
RE: "Maha Moms' - zqwerty - 14-01-2025
Health experts rally for ‘call to arms’ to protect children from toxic chemicals
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/jan/08/health-experts-childrens-health-chemicals-paper
RE: "Maha Moms' - Lilith7 - 14-01-2025
(14-01-2025, 04:26 PM)zqwerty Wrote: Health experts rally for ‘call to arms’ to protect children from toxic chemicals
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/jan/08/health-experts-childrens-health-chemicals-paper
That makes for scary reading; there's still so much we're only just starting to learn about the effect we're having on the world.
RE: "Maha Moms' - harm_less - 14-01-2025
(14-01-2025, 05:21 PM)Lilith7 Wrote:Not so unknown if you've taken the opportunity to read the right material https://www.abebooks.com/9780958333498/poisoning-New-Zealand-Meriel-Watts-0958333491/plp(14-01-2025, 04:26 PM)zqwerty Wrote: Health experts rally for ‘call to arms’ to protect children from toxic chemicals
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/jan/08/health-experts-childrens-health-chemicals-paper
That makes for scary reading; there's still so much we're only just starting to learn about the effect we're having on the world.
RE: "Maha Moms' - Oh_hunnihunni - 14-01-2025
When you check the packaging on some of the factory made foods sold in the US, v the same product sold in Europe the differences in regulatory frameworks become more obvious. There are chemicals served up to US buyers that European nations banned outright decades ago...
No wonder some voices are calling for change.
RE: "Maha Moms' - nzoomed - 16-01-2025
(14-01-2025, 08:11 PM)harm_less Wrote:(14-01-2025, 05:21 PM)Lilith7 Wrote: That makes for scary reading; there's still so much we're only just starting to learn about the effect we're having on the world.Not so unknown if you've taken the opportunity to read the right material https://www.abebooks.com/9780958333498/poisoning-New-Zealand-Meriel-Watts-0958333491/plp
The PFAS scandal and BPA are my biggest concerns, but literally most forms of plastics contain chemicals that are not exactly good for your health.
RE: "Maha Moms' - harm_less - 16-01-2025
(16-01-2025, 12:58 PM)nzoomed Wrote:One enduring memory of a point made by Meriel in that book is that pesticide safety and residue levels have more to do with expected levels remaining on crops after spray application is made as recommended on the pesticide label's instructions. The connection between that and the level of health risk to humans (and livestock) is loose at best and definitely doesn't take into account the synergist effects of exposure to multiple toxins used in food production which is very much part of modern life's environmental landscape.(14-01-2025, 08:11 PM)harm_less Wrote: Not so unknown if you've taken the opportunity to read the right material https://www.abebooks.com/9780958333498/poisoning-New-Zealand-Meriel-Watts-0958333491/plp
The PFAS scandal and BPA are my biggest concerns, but literally most forms of plastics contain chemicals that are not exactly good for your health.
The effects of many poisons can be very much increased when other toxic input exist simultaneously. One prime example is for Hi-Cane which is used to promote bud burst in kiwifruit and apples. It is one of the most poisonous agrichemicals used in NZ and combine that with a couple of beers after Hi-Cane and 'Hi-Cane flush' results as your body attempts to rid itself of the toxins you've absorbed.
Most people just don't realise what chemicals are used conventionally grown produce systems.
RE: "Maha Moms' - nzoomed - 16-01-2025
(16-01-2025, 03:40 PM)harm_less Wrote:Yes, and then the other issue is that many of these toxins bio accumulate in your body and have a long half life as is the case with PFOA.(16-01-2025, 12:58 PM)nzoomed Wrote: The PFAS scandal and BPA are my biggest concerns, but literally most forms of plastics contain chemicals that are not exactly good for your health.One enduring memory of a point made by Meriel in that book is that pesticide safety and residue levels have more to do with expected levels remaining on crops after spray application is made as recommended on the pesticide label's instructions. The connection between that and the level of health risk to humans (and livestock) is loose at best and definitely doesn't take into account the synergist effects of exposure to multiple toxins used in food production which is very much part of modern life's environmental landscape.
The effects of many poisons can be very much increased when other toxic input exist simultaneously. One prime example is for Hi-Cane which is used to promote bud burst in kiwifruit and apples. It is one of the most poisonous agrichemicals used in NZ and combine that with a couple of beers after Hi-Cane and 'Hi-Cane flush' results as your body attempts to rid itself of the toxins you've absorbed.
Most people just don't realise what chemicals are used conventionally grown produce systems.
I heard a little about hi-cane a while back, there has been a bit of talk about it in recent, the ironic thing is its used as an alcohol deterrent drug if you please!
I dont know what else they spray on kiwifruit orchards, but it was quite a common occurrence to smell this cabbage like odour when driving past kiwifruit orchards in TePuke, i don't know if this was the same stuff or not, but i didnt think it could be too good whatever it was.
RE: "Maha Moms' - zqwerty - 17-01-2025
US company behind Teflon tries to block EU’s forever chemicals ban, claims NGO
https://www.politico.eu/article/chemours-chemicals-block-european-pfas-ban-claim-corporate-europe-observatory/
RE: "Maha Moms' - harm_less - 17-01-2025
(17-01-2025, 08:54 AM)zqwerty Wrote: US company behind Teflon tries to block EU’s forever chemicals ban, claims NGOThe movie Dark Waters relates to DuPont's activities. A good watch.
https://www.politico.eu/article/chemours-chemicals-block-european-pfas-ban-claim-corporate-europe-observatory/
RE: "Maha Moms' - Lilith7 - 17-01-2025
(17-01-2025, 09:34 AM)harm_less Wrote:(17-01-2025, 08:54 AM)zqwerty Wrote: US company behind Teflon tries to block EU’s forever chemicals ban, claims NGOThe movie Dark Waters relates to DuPont's activities. A good watch.
https://www.politico.eu/article/chemours-chemicals-block-european-pfas-ban-claim-corporate-europe-observatory/
It was an excellent movie, if also sickening. It just confirmed for me yet again that having too much money is as bad for humans as having too little money...
RE: "Maha Moms' - nzoomed - 17-01-2025
Yeah i heard a fair amount on PFOA, but did not know its extent or the seriousness of the issue until I watched dark waters.
Im still concerned how some of the so called "safer" PFAS are still being used on clothing such as goretex, im not sure if they are all going to be phased out entirely from what I can tell.
RE: "Maha Moms' - harm_less - 17-01-2025
(17-01-2025, 12:15 PM)nzoomed Wrote: Yeah i heard a fair amount on PFOA, but did not know its extent or the seriousness of the issue until I watched dark waters.Add to that the use of formaldehyde as a fabric dressing (anti-creasing agent) on a lot of imported clothing and you have a toxic environment enveloping you that increases together with skin absorption rates as body temperature rises. So many people suffer from scalp, underarm and groin irritations but fail to connect the dots in regards to their cheap beanies and underwear.
Im still concerned how some of the so called "safer" PFAS are still being used on clothing such as goretex, im not sure if they are all going to be phased out entirely from what I can tell.
Our company sells a lot of clothing and fabric (which are dressings free) to customers, or more commonly their kids/grandkids, with skin inflammatory conditions.
RE: "Maha Moms' - zqwerty - 19-01-2025
Revealed: drinking water sources in England polluted with forever chemicals
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/jan/16/the-forever-chemical-hotspots-polluting-england-drinking-water-sources
RE: "Maha Moms' - harm_less - 19-01-2025
(19-01-2025, 09:20 AM)zqwerty Wrote: Revealed: drinking water sources in England polluted with forever chemicalsDilution (i.e. reducing the contamination level by blending it with pure water) is the cheats' way out. It wasn't okay to do this with Chernobyl contaminated meat by adding it to 'good' meat, and then mincing it, and it's not okay to use the same practices in this case. It should be fully on the manufacturers and users of these chemicals to correct and pay for their contamination.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/jan/16/the-forever-chemical-hotspots-polluting-england-drinking-water-sources
RE: "Maha Moms' - zqwerty - 19-01-2025
Now that it's becoming more well-known that overall we probably don't have much more time for a great number of people because of climate change etc I predict that there will be more and more short cuts and kludges/bodges done in many areas to make-do just in the meantime.
RE: "Maha Moms' - Lilith7 - 19-01-2025
(19-01-2025, 02:00 PM)zqwerty Wrote: Now that it's becoming more well-known that overall we probably don't have much more time for a great number of people because of climate change etc I predict that there will be more and more short cuts and kludges/bodges done in many areas to make-do just in the meantime.
Presumably in an effort to become wealthy - much good that's likely to do them if our planet's truly doomed..
We truly are idiots sometimes.