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Microsoft has fouled out again. - Bryan - 12-03-2025
Microsoft has fouled out again in my opinion. Maybe it is just my Asus Z490-V, i7 10700K that is the problem. Like a few others (see Eleven forum) I was unable to install the Cumulative update K5051987, it gave up at 38% install and reverted back. Today was release KB5053598. Exactly the same result. I am not as gifted as many computer gurus to delve into workarounds to correct major problems like this – I am more than slightly annoyed!
My only solution IMO is to replace a perfectly good mb if I want to keep up with Microsoft’s updates or just stay in the backwaters. But then, if I was to replace the board, what’s to say that I won’t have the same problems! Would an Asus Z590 (or a Gigabyte) be worth looking at, that way I can use the CPU and RAM from this rig.
RE: Microsoft has fouled out again. - king1 - 12-03-2025
updates failing to install is generally software related, so replacing the mobo is unlikely to make any difference. On the very rare occasion security software can interfere with an update but that is usually the feature updates...
If I was you i would just suspend updates for a month and let MS have some time to sort the bugs out on other users. It is not unusual that an update won't install the first time around especially when it has only just been released, but it will generally get them installed on its own eventually.
I only get worried about updates when i see a string of installation failures in the update history
RE: Microsoft has fouled out again. - nzoomed - 13-03-2025
(12-03-2025, 08:32 AM)king1 Wrote: I only get worried about updates when i see a string of installation failures in the update history
Even then, I find this is quite a common occurrence. Sometimes its a matter of clearing the update cache and trying again, but in some cases i just run the tool to block the update from installing if its not a critical update.
RE: Microsoft has fouled out again. - Agent_24 - 05-05-2025
It's just Windows being Windows.
I've seen plenty of updates fail to install across everything from Windows 98 to Windows 10.
Hardly any fail to install on Linux. Unless it's something stupid, like you ran out of disk space.
RE: Microsoft has fouled out again. - Wainuitech - 05-05-2025
(05-05-2025, 03:40 PM)Agent_24 Wrote: It's just Windows being Windows.
I've seen plenty of updates fail to install across everything from Windows 98 to Windows 10.
Hardly any fail to install on Linux. Unless it's something stupid, like you ran out of disk space.
Work this one out, last week a PC with Kubuntu was working as it should, the updates were downloaded as normal, one included a system "Upgrade" so let it run, at then said it needed to reboot ( all good so far it seemed) came back roughly 1/2 an hour later - Cant remember the exact error message but meant a lot of trouble.
In the end discovered the upgrade had wiped all partitions, and the drive was completely empty ??? WTF !!! ( Only drive connected)
Reloaded Kubuntu, install confirmed no partitions -- Been running as expected ever since.
Great Upgrade-- Wipe the drive LOL.
RE: Microsoft has fouled out again. - Agent_24 - 06-05-2025
That's bizarre! You don't seem to have much luck with Linux, do you?
I've never had anything like that happen to me, only once a filesystem got locked into read-only mode due to a failing hard drive. Which honestly seems like a pretty sensible idea.
RE: Microsoft has fouled out again. - Wainuitech - 06-05-2025
(06-05-2025, 08:20 AM)Agent_24 Wrote: That's bizarre! You don't seem to have much luck with Linux, do you?I didn't do anything anyone else would do. The update Icon in the tray advised - Opened updates - selected update all ( including the Upgrade) when they had done their thing It advised to restart Clicked on restart -- Thats was it.
I've never had anything like that happen to me, only once a filesystem got locked into read-only mode due to a failing hard drive. Which honestly seems like a pretty sensible idea.
On another note, though, I also have 2 NAS's Linux based, and Linux Server - Been running for errrrrrrrrr Long time
Never had a problems with them (apart from once a NAS decided it didn't like a user password that had been fine for over a year.)The desktop Versions -- Well, won't go there, it seems every time they upgrade, something doesn't work that did before.
RE: Microsoft has fouled out again. - Bryan - 07-05-2025
Finally today I am a Happy Chappie. Intel have apparently released updates to a slew of their chipsets for various motherboards (seen this on ElevenForum this morning). Using WAU to check for updates to the Windows 11 OS, I found and earlier update KB5055523 that I hadn't seen before. It installed well and my OS became 26100.3775. I then installed KB5055623 which has never installed before. This too has installed, and my system is now at 26100.3915.
RE: Microsoft has fouled out again. - Agent_24 - 07-05-2025
(06-05-2025, 08:57 AM)Wainuitech Wrote: I didn't do anything anyone else would do. The update Icon in the tray advised - Opened updates - selected update all ( including the Upgrade) when they had done their thing It advised to restart Clicked on restart -- Thats was it.
The desktop Versions -- Well, won't go there, it seems every time they upgrade, something doesn't work that did before.
I am genuinely surprised, especially with Kubuntu - not that I've used it much myself - but being Ubuntu and Debian based, updates should be well tested and failures few and far between. My experience with Ubuntu, Xubuntu and Ubuntu Studio have all been pretty reliable and I never had any major failure that wasn't from my own doing.
The fact that your drive got wiped? Very weird, and worrying. Updates shouldn't even touch the partition table etc. So unless a memory error or drive error occurred and data was mis-written to the wrong place?
Perhaps if there was some glitch with a bootloader update? But that shouldn't wipe the drive, just corrupt GRUB. Then you could boot using Super Grub Disk or such, and reinstall the bootloader...
Was the drive actually zeroed, or just the partition table corrupted?
RE: Microsoft has fouled out again. - Wainuitech - 07-05-2025
(07-05-2025, 09:37 AM)Agent_24 Wrote:Can't remember the exact error message, all I thought was oh bugger that's not meant to happen ?? but it did have something to do with GRUB. (not helpful I know)(06-05-2025, 08:57 AM)Wainuitech Wrote: I didn't do anything anyone else would do. The update Icon in the tray advised - Opened updates - selected update all ( including the Upgrade) when they had done their thing It advised to restart Clicked on restart -- Thats was it.
The desktop Versions -- Well, won't go there, it seems every time they upgrade, something doesn't work that did before.
I am genuinely surprised, especially with Kubuntu - not that I've used it much myself - but being Ubuntu and Debian based, updates should be well tested and failures few and far between. My experience with Ubuntu, Xubuntu and Ubuntu Studio have all been pretty reliable and I never had any major failure that wasn't from my own doing.
The fact that your drive got wiped? Very weird, and worrying. Updates shouldn't even touch the partition table etc. So unless a memory error or drive error occurred and data was mis-written to the wrong place?
Perhaps if there was some glitch with a bootloader update? But that shouldn't wipe the drive, just corrupt GRUB. Then you could boot using Super Grub Disk or such, and reinstall the bootloader...
Was the drive actually zeroed, or just the partition table corrupted?
I booted the Computer from Partition software Via USB - The whole drive was blank as if it had deleted all partitions.
Rebooted from a USB, reinstalled Kubuntu, and the partition options also showed the drive as empty. Once reinstalled, it ran updates, reset/created all the previous shares, and so far, it's still going as it should.
Just Booted from partition Software --- The Working version of the partitions is shown in the picture below. ( just took the picture) Who knows what happened ???
As I mentioned got a couple of Servers running Linux- All good.
RE: Microsoft has fouled out again. - Agent_24 - 07-05-2025
Very odd for sure.
Would have been interesting to scan the drive with a data recovery tool and see what exactly happened, I would assume just the partition table got nuked, maybe GRUB overwrote it by mistake...