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DEI is the demise of the greens, the Ben Doyle saga is the final nail in the coffin. - C_T_Russell - 01-04-2025
Our woke media are painting him as a poor victim and attacking Winston Peters.
Here is one of his social media posts which is believed to be with his son, now been taken down, and here we have Chloe essentially defending his content on social media and the use of the word "Bussy"
https://x.com/aniobrien/status/1905415609271419238
I feel sorry for the kid, he clearly has been taken advantage of, was this child even aware that his father has posted this on social media for the public to see? Perhaps he has been bought up to accept this sort of shit is normal?
Winston has genuine concerns about the content he had posted on instagram, any sane person should have the same concerns.
The green party are trash and need clearing out, this sort of crap is not what we need in parliament.
This same party as a result of their DEI policy has employed shoplifters to their ranks, promotes defunding of the police, criticizes the use of police beat patrols and this guy thinks that puberty blockers should be prescribed to children, he is deluded and Winston has done the right thing by banning them, putting the dangers aside, morally its wrong.
The greens are a danger to society and the children we are trying to protect.
Where is our old green party that only cared about climate change, legalizing weed and banning genetic engineering? They were always a left leaning party, but nowdays they are highly radicalized, I hate to think what Jeanette Fitzsimons would feel should she still be alive.
James Shaw was pretty much the only decent green MP that remained, I dont blame him for leaving, I bet he had good reasons for doing so.
If the greens actually went back to being a bunch of hippies I might take them more seriously!
Perhaps if they actually vetted their candidates properly, instead of using DEI to select them, then this situation could have been avoided, they dont select qualified people for the job, only people who they feel fit their political agenda.
Here is the press conference from yesterday, Winston handled it very well, something tells me we wont be hearing the end of this.
And by the way, Winston was not the one who even was the first to bring this matter to the public's attention, but the media are all over him like its his fault.
RE: DEI is the demise of the greens, the Ben Doyle saga is the final nail in the coffin. - Oh_hunnihunni - 01-04-2025
CT, what do you think DEI actually is?
RE: DEI is the demise of the greens, the Ben Doyle saga is the final nail in the coffin. - Praktica - 01-04-2025
(01-04-2025, 12:20 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: CT, what do you think DEI actually is?
Oh, it's sumtin dat Trump and da bois don't like, so I'm 'gainst it too...
RE: DEI is the demise of the greens, the Ben Doyle saga is the final nail in the coffin. - Oh_hunnihunni - 01-04-2025
It is really easy to be against something we know nothing about, just because someone we like says we should be against it.
That's called the cult of personality, and it is why people don't like what is happening in America, but a lot of them still think Trump is okay. Because he has cultivated that cult of personality and knows exactly how to use it to his advantage.
RE: DEI is the demise of the greens, the Ben Doyle saga is the final nail in the coffin. - Oh_hunnihunni - 01-04-2025
The other thing I cannot get out of my head, is why is Winston so interested in what is in other people's private social media posts, and their underpants?
Surely at his age he's passed all that stuff.
Silly bussy.
RE: DEI is the demise of the greens, the Ben Doyle saga is the final nail in the coffin. - zqwerty - 01-04-2025
Oh_hunnihunni, well said and funny as well.
Being influenced by the "cult of personality trends" is just a sign of low level intellect.
RE: DEI is the demise of the greens, the Ben Doyle saga is the final nail in the coffin. - dken31 - 01-04-2025
(01-04-2025, 02:33 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: The other thing I cannot get out of my head, is why is Winston so interested in what is in other people's private social media posts, and their underpants?
Surely at his age he's passed all that stuff.
Silly bussy.
Is it any more strange that he be interested in Doyle's social media posts than that you (and others here) were obsessed with which church Luxon supposedly attended? Both happened in their "private lives". But, in fact, what politicians do in their private lives often is very legitimately of interest to the general public, due to it providing insight into their viewpoints and influences.
As to Winston's so called interest in what is in Doyle's underpants, as you well know (but dishonestly attempt to deflect from), Winston's interest is in Doyle's own referencing of what is in his own/and or his child's underpants. Referencing which, at the very best, is incredibly strange. An assumption towards it being for more sinister is very reasonable though.
I'm interested: if Simeon Brown posted a photo of his daughter on his lap with the caption "Pussy galore", would you question his child's safety. And that's not even a good comparison as pussy has multiple accepted meanings whereas bussy is pretty well accepted to only refer to anus in a sexual context.
RE: DEI is the demise of the greens, the Ben Doyle saga is the final nail in the coffin. - Lilith7 - 02-04-2025
(01-04-2025, 02:33 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: The other thing I cannot get out of my head, is why is Winston so interested in what is in other people's private social media posts, and their underpants?
Surely at his age he's passed all that stuff.
Silly bussy.
Publicity, I suspect...lest he become irrelevant in hs dotage.
I tend to believe - & with rather more reason - that the hard right,rather than the Greens are far more of a danger to society.
RE: DEI is the demise of the greens, the Ben Doyle saga is the final nail in the coffin. - C_T_Russell - 02-04-2025
(01-04-2025, 12:20 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: CT, what do you think DEI actually is?Diversity, Equity and Inclusion, sums it all up really.
(01-04-2025, 06:29 PM)dken31 Wrote:(01-04-2025, 02:33 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: The other thing I cannot get out of my head, is why is Winston so interested in what is in other people's private social media posts, and their underpants?
Surely at his age he's passed all that stuff.
Silly bussy.
Is it any more strange that he be interested in Doyle's social media posts than that you (and others here) were obsessed with which church Luxon supposedly attended? Both happened in their "private lives". But, in fact, what politicians do in their private lives often is very legitimately of interest to the general public, due to it providing insight into their viewpoints and influences.
As to Winston's so called interest in what is in Doyle's underpants, as you well know (but dishonestly attempt to deflect from), Winston's interest is in Doyle's own referencing of what is in his own/and or his child's underpants. Referencing which, at the very best, is incredibly strange. An assumption towards it being for more sinister is very reasonable though.
I'm interested: if Simeon Brown posted a photo of his daughter on his lap with the caption "Pussy galore", would you question his child's safety. And that's not even a good comparison as pussy has multiple accepted meanings whereas bussy is pretty well accepted to only refer to anus in a sexual context.
Damn right, and here we have Chloe trying to defend this crap on TV.
There is zero excuse for this behavior, i dont give a rats arse if it was posted private or public or prior to him being elected.
I dont care if the kid in the photos is his own or not either.
She is whitewashing the whole thing and saying this terminology is being misinterpreted outside the LGBTQIAA+ community, no its not Chloe, we all know its a sexual term, far moreso than "pussy" as it only can apply as a sexual term in this context, prove me otherwise.
Also the position of the kid in the photo also is disturbing to say the least.
Not to mention we are having the LGBT/rainbow community themselves upset and speaking out.
There are other red flags on his instagram profile bio too.
I dare anyone to perform a facebook search on his spiral emoji and tell me what you get.
The green party need to do the right thing and condemn his posts and say they will conduct an investigation into it, not double down on it.
RE: DEI is the demise of the greens, the Ben Doyle saga is the final nail in the coffin. - Oh_hunnihunni - 02-04-2025
(01-04-2025, 06:29 PM)dken31 Wrote:(01-04-2025, 02:33 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: The other thing I cannot get out of my head, is why is Winston so interested in what is in other people's private social media posts, and their underpants?
Surely at his age he's passed all that stuff.
Silly bussy.
Is it any more strange that he be interested in Doyle's social media posts than that you (and others here) were obsessed with which church Luxon supposedly attended? Both happened in their "private lives". But, in fact, what politicians do in their private lives often is very legitimately of interest to the general public, due to it providing insight into their viewpoints and influences.
As to Winston's so called interest in what is in Doyle's underpants, as you well know (but dishonestly attempt to deflect from), Winston's interest is in Doyle's own referencing of what is in his own/and or his child's underpants. Referencing which, at the very best, is incredibly strange. An assumption towards it being for more sinister is very reasonable though.
I'm interested: if Simeon Brown posted a photo of his daughter on his lap with the caption "Pussy galore", would you question his child's safety. And that's not even a good comparison as pussy has multiple accepted meanings whereas bussy is pretty well accepted to only refer to anus in a sexual context.
I think anyone making that giant leap to the child has some issues to deal with. Sinister? Omg, I think some people are searching really hard for material to undermine political enemies. And in the process revealing far too much about their own realities.
Pearl clutching it seems is not just for women.
RE: DEI is the demise of the greens, the Ben Doyle saga is the final nail in the coffin. - Oh_hunnihunni - 02-04-2025
Btw, if anyone wants something to be concerned about - try this:
https://newsroom.co.nz/2025/04/01/national-vaccination-database-unexpected-casualty-of-health-funding-cuts/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwY2xjawJZtbdleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHR_wllcsFCzBbHOapuDLn6Ch-e_ZrOz6NBOg0sN60Bun_FfAu69xYMOpeQ_aem_eOenz8txdWq6DD96HgLIog#Echobox=1743559018
RE: DEI is the demise of the greens, the Ben Doyle saga is the final nail in the coffin. - Lilith7 - 03-04-2025
(02-04-2025, 06:18 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Btw, if anyone wants something to be concerned about - try this:
https://newsroom.co.nz/2025/04/01/national-vaccination-database-unexpected-casualty-of-health-funding-cuts/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwY2xjawJZtbdleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHR_wllcsFCzBbHOapuDLn6Ch-e_ZrOz6NBOg0sN60Bun_FfAu69xYMOpeQ_aem_eOenz8txdWq6DD96HgLIog#Echobox=1743559018
"Unexpected?!" HOW exactly could this possibly have been unexpected, when this govt has merrily slashed $380m in data/digital funding?
What the hell did they think would happen? Carrier pigeon post filling in for digital? Did they expect miraculous recoverys across the entire country?
Such a level of ineptness or stupidity - or both, was bound to lead to problems.
RE: DEI is the demise of the greens, the Ben Doyle saga is the final nail in the coffin. - zqwerty - 03-04-2025
People whose knowledge is way out of date running systems they no longer comprehend, I'm not certain they ever did.
They are in charge of very intelligent computer experts who are just playing the game probably.
RE: DEI is the demise of the greens, the Ben Doyle saga is the final nail in the coffin. - C_T_Russell - 03-04-2025
(02-04-2025, 05:29 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote:(01-04-2025, 06:29 PM)dken31 Wrote: Is it any more strange that he be interested in Doyle's social media posts than that you (and others here) were obsessed with which church Luxon supposedly attended? Both happened in their "private lives". But, in fact, what politicians do in their private lives often is very legitimately of interest to the general public, due to it providing insight into their viewpoints and influences.
As to Winston's so called interest in what is in Doyle's underpants, as you well know (but dishonestly attempt to deflect from), Winston's interest is in Doyle's own referencing of what is in his own/and or his child's underpants. Referencing which, at the very best, is incredibly strange. An assumption towards it being for more sinister is very reasonable though.
I'm interested: if Simeon Brown posted a photo of his daughter on his lap with the caption "Pussy galore", would you question his child's safety. And that's not even a good comparison as pussy has multiple accepted meanings whereas bussy is pretty well accepted to only refer to anus in a sexual context.
I think anyone making that giant leap to the child has some issues to deal with. Sinister? Omg, I think some people are searching really hard for material to undermine political enemies. And in the process revealing far too much about their own realities.
Pearl clutching it seems is not just for women.
It wasn't Winston who leaked these posts/photos, it was someone close to Benjamin who had access to his Instagram profile and had genuine concerns.
Winston simply was the one who got attacked simply for mentioning it on social media.
If I, as a straight person posted a photo of my daughter in that position on my lap with the caption "pussy galore" I hate to think what the reaction would be.
"Bussy" = Boys Pussy, so this takes the whole thing to a whole new low how he sexualises his child, its disgusting and serious questions need to be asked.
So why on earth does it make it OK just because this guy is part of the rainbow community? He has already caused outrage among the community. This makes Chloe look like a complete idiot by doubling down and defending him as a victim from all of this.
But this has now opened a whole can of worms, with Sean Plunket covering this, turns out that there are 3 reliable sources that claim that he is converting his sons gender, this is sick.
Not only that, but turns out his partner was one of his students while he was teaching at school!
But it even gets worse, I dont think this is going away, and dont be surprised if he plays the poor victim and steps down.
And Yes, I think Luxon is handling the whole thing very professionally.
RE: DEI is the demise of the greens, the Ben Doyle saga is the final nail in the coffin. - Oh_hunnihunni - 05-04-2025
https://newsroom.co.nz/2025/04/05/the-secret-diary-of-the-benjamin-doyle-affair/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwY2xjawJdDDlleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHlCUQB7Ql7bYwK3U8k8VPVZe1FkplcqkGSR4p3o3LSF8YaoGdW3dK6UHPEFe_aem_L4AiWOu7-u4kruwLtvPukg#Echobox=1743791912
RE: DEI is the demise of the greens, the Ben Doyle saga is the final nail in the coffin. - Lilith7 - 05-04-2025
(05-04-2025, 07:06 AM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: https://newsroom.co.nz/2025/04/05/the-secret-diary-of-the-benjamin-doyle-affair/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwY2xjawJdDDlleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHlCUQB7Ql7bYwK3U8k8VPVZe1FkplcqkGSR4p3o3LSF8YaoGdW3dK6UHPEFe_aem_L4AiWOu7-u4kruwLtvPukg#Echobox=1743791912
Brilliant!
RE: DEI is the demise of the greens, the Ben Doyle saga is the final nail in the coffin. - Oh_hunnihunni - 05-04-2025
It amuses me that the person leading the crusade against DEI, has hired folk for positions that are clearly beyond their scope of expertise, rails against trans and LGBT issues and yet has a criminal history of sexual assault and demonstrated links to others of the same perverted interests, and is financed by men whose predilections for strange relationships are unusual to say the least.
And yet, has a cult following of extraordinary size. Just goes to show eh, that folk are weird, and thank heavens we aint that peculiar after all...
RE: DEI is the demise of the greens, the Ben Doyle saga is the final nail in the coffin. - C_T_Russell - 06-04-2025
(05-04-2025, 07:06 AM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: https://newsroom.co.nz/2025/04/05/the-secret-diary-of-the-benjamin-doyle-affair/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwY2xjawJdDDlleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHlCUQB7Ql7bYwK3U8k8VPVZe1FkplcqkGSR4p3o3LSF8YaoGdW3dK6UHPEFe_aem_L4AiWOu7-u4kruwLtvPukg#Echobox=1743791912
Just another left leaning piece of propaganda, clutching at straws.
RE: DEI is the demise of the greens, the Ben Doyle saga is the final nail in the coffin. - Oh_hunnihunni - 06-04-2025
Diversity. Equity. Inclusion.
Yeah, very woke, that kind of stuff...
As opposed to the opposite of each, which is what we lived with for so long. Monoculture. Inequity. Exclusion...
RE: DEI is the demise of the greens, the Ben Doyle saga is the final nail in the coffin. - zqwerty - 06-04-2025
Well said Oh_hunnihunni, Bravo.