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"Nowhere to go" for more than 100,000 Kiwis - Lilith7 - 23-06-2025

Neo Liberals must be well pleased. Dodgy

Children as young as nine?  Angry
Wtf is wrong with us? We could do worse than to follow the Welsh example; they have a 'duty to assist' legislation to help prevent homelessness. It holds local authorities responsible to prevent homelessness.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/564850/nowhere-to-go-for-more-than-100-000-kiwis-the-worsening-reality-of-homelessness

And of course, nothing at all to do with those stricter emergency housing rules

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/544438/luxon-denies-stricter-emergency-housing-rules-have-increased-homelessness

RE: "Nowhere to go" for more than 100,000 Kiwis - heisenberg - 23-06-2025

how many homeless are you taking in?

RE: "Nowhere to go" for more than 100,000 Kiwis - Oh_hunnihunni - 23-06-2025

How many have you?

Puhleeze! Stop with the tropes masquerading as intelligent responses. You can do better, you are just being lazy.

RE: "Nowhere to go" for more than 100,000 Kiwis - Lilith7 - 23-06-2025

(23-06-2025, 02:14 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: How many have you?

Puhleeze! Stop with the tropes masquerading as intelligent responses.  You can do better, you are just being lazy.

 Yeah,nah, wouldn't count on it.. Rolleyes Big Grin

RE: "Nowhere to go" for more than 100,000 Kiwis - Praktica - 23-06-2025

Trolls gotta troll...

RE: "Nowhere to go" for more than 100,000 Kiwis - Agent_24 - 23-06-2025

(23-06-2025, 03:38 PM)Lilith7 Wrote:
(23-06-2025, 02:14 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Puhleeze! Stop with the tropes masquerading as intelligent responses.  You can do better, you are just being lazy.

 Yeah,nah, wouldn't count on it.. Rolleyes Big Grin

I'm not sure he's capable of intelligence.
Just regurgitates the same old right-wing "gotchas" like a broken record, thinking that somehow achieves anything.

He can't even come up with an original username, picture, or signature.
All just copied from a character in a TV show.
Does he even have a personal identity?
Or is 'trolling the left" his only purpose in life?

Sad.

RE: "Nowhere to go" for more than 100,000 Kiwis - heisenberg - 24-06-2025

(23-06-2025, 08:06 PM)Agent_24 Wrote:
(23-06-2025, 03:38 PM)Lilith7 Wrote:  Yeah,nah, wouldn't count on it.. Rolleyes Big Grin

I'm not sure he's capable of intelligence.
Just regurgitates the same old right-wing "gotchas" like a broken record, thinking that somehow achieves anything.

He can't even come up with an original username, picture, or signature.
All just copied from a character in a TV show.
Does he even have a personal identity?
Or is 'trolling the left" his only purpose in life?

Sad.

you would be surprised how little i care about your opinion, i wouldn’t go casting nistershims regarding usernames either agent 24 hardly original 

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15547280/

RE: "Nowhere to go" for more than 100,000 Kiwis - Agent_24 - 24-06-2025

(24-06-2025, 05:44 AM)heisenberg Wrote: you would be surprised how little i care about your opinion, i wouldn’t go casting nistershims regarding usernames either agent 24 hardly original 

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15547280/

Okay.

I chose my username about 20 years ago in the original PC World PressF1 forum.
Long before that show existed.
Anyone here from back then knows that.

RE: "Nowhere to go" for more than 100,000 Kiwis - Oh_hunnihunni - 24-06-2025

Nistershims? I am torn between aspersions and nasturtiums, but I do like it! Mine was a stolen ID, my kid was under age when she registered with Trademe long before I did. She got onto the message board and was really enjoying the interaction when two things happened at the same time, TM made an Under 18 rule and she got a job, so I adopted her membership... And that was all she wrote. Up till then I'd been playing on international forums, the New Zealand version was very different. All told I have been on forums since 98, and using a computer since 1986.

That is an awful long time. But then, I am really old, sez she gleefully.

RE: "Nowhere to go" for more than 100,000 Kiwis - Lilith7 - 24-06-2025

(24-06-2025, 08:33 AM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Nistershims? I am torn between aspersions and nasturtiums, but I do like it! Mine was a stolen ID, my kid was under age when she registered with Trademe long before I did. She got onto the message board and was really enjoying the interaction when two things happened at the same time, TM made an Under 18 rule and she got a job, so I adopted her membership... And that was all she wrote. Up till then I'd been playing on international forums, the New Zealand version was very different. All told I have been on forums since 98, and using a computer since 1986.

That is an awful long time. But then, I am really old, sez she gleefully.

Damned if I know how long I've been online, but this name is one I used when on the Landover Baptist site, (an American satirical site) & it just seemed easier to keep it.

RE: "Nowhere to go" for more than 100,000 Kiwis - heisenberg - 24-06-2025

(23-06-2025, 02:14 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: How many have you?

Puhleeze! Stop with the tropes masquerading as intelligent responses.  You can do better, you are just being lazy.

i pay more than enough tax to house some of the great unwashed
(24-06-2025, 08:05 AM)Agent_24 Wrote:
(24-06-2025, 05:44 AM)heisenberg Wrote: you would be surprised how little i care about your opinion, i wouldn’t go casting nistershims regarding usernames either agent 24 hardly original 

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15547280/

Okay.

I chose my username about 20 years ago in the original PC World PressF1 forum.
Long before that show existed.
Anyone here from back then knows that.
how do you know i didnt choose the other Heisenberg not the meth cooking teacher, that profile picture could be anybody

RE: "Nowhere to go" for more than 100,000 Kiwis - Lilith7 - 24-06-2025

(24-06-2025, 04:26 PM)heisenberg Wrote:
(23-06-2025, 02:14 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: How many have you?

Puhleeze! Stop with the tropes masquerading as intelligent responses.  You can do better, you are just being lazy.

i pay more than enough tax to house some of the great unwashed
(24-06-2025, 08:05 AM)Agent_24 Wrote: Okay.

I chose my username about 20 years ago in the original PC World PressF1 forum.
Long before that show existed.
Anyone here from back then knows that.
how do you know i didnt choose the other Heisenberg not the meth cooking teacher, that profile picture could be anybody

" i pay more than enough tax to house some of the great unwashed "


And never bother to look at why people are homeless.... Dodgy

RE: "Nowhere to go" for more than 100,000 Kiwis - heisenberg - 24-06-2025

(24-06-2025, 04:50 PM)Lilith7 Wrote:
(24-06-2025, 04:26 PM)heisenberg Wrote: i pay more than enough tax to house some of the great unwashed
how do you know i didnt choose the other Heisenberg not the meth cooking teacher, that profile picture could be anybody

" i pay more than enough tax to house some of the great unwashed "


And never bother to look at why people are homeless.... Dodgy

you tell me

some are homeless through "shit happens" reasons

some are homeless because they want to be, like the druggie son of a neighbour who was ejected from his parents sleepout because he set it on fire

some are homeless because they cant behave themselves

RE: "Nowhere to go" for more than 100,000 Kiwis - Oh_hunnihunni - 24-06-2025

I was just days away from finding a safe place to sleep in a park or reserve. I had actually scoped one out.

I know shit happens. And sometimes it happens more than once in a lifetime. It's like the opposite of winning Lotto. And it is as scary as hell. And we survive, or we drown. Thing is drowning can look like a choice from a distance.

I just wish everyone who goes there had the help I was granted, and am grateful for each day.

RE: "Nowhere to go" for more than 100,000 Kiwis - Lilith7 - 25-06-2025

(24-06-2025, 07:23 PM)heisenberg Wrote:
(24-06-2025, 04:50 PM)Lilith7 Wrote: " i pay more than enough tax to house some of the great unwashed "


And never bother to look at why people are homeless.... Dodgy

you tell me

some are homeless through "shit happens" reasons

some are homeless because they want to be, like the druggie son of a neighbour who was ejected from his parents sleepout because he set it on fire

some are homeless because they cant behave themselves

It is almost never a 'choice'. 

Usually it can happen when the landlord puts up the rent to an unrealistic level. Being unable to afford rent, unable to find an affordable roof over your head is often what leads to people having to sleep in their cars or under bushes, bridges .


In a more reasonable world, a govt with the welfare of its people at heart would have, rather than selling off state housing, instead built more to meet the need. Instead successive idiot govts have either ignored or worsened the problem.

RE: "Nowhere to go" for more than 100,000 Kiwis - Agent_24 - 25-06-2025

(24-06-2025, 04:26 PM)heisenberg Wrote: how do you know i didnt choose the other Heisenberg not the meth cooking teacher, that profile picture could be anybody

Lol, your profile picture is clearly the character from Breaking Bad, I've watched the show...

RE: "Nowhere to go" for more than 100,000 Kiwis - Lilith7 - 25-06-2025

(25-06-2025, 01:33 PM)Agent_24 Wrote:
(24-06-2025, 04:26 PM)heisenberg Wrote: how do you know i didnt choose the other Heisenberg not the meth cooking teacher, that profile picture could be anybody

Lol, your profile picture is clearly the character from Breaking Bad, I've watched the show...

I think its a fairly safe bet that most of us have... Rolleyes Big Grin

RE: "Nowhere to go" for more than 100,000 Kiwis - Lilith7 - 25-06-2025

Homelessness increase 'not necessarily due to govt policy changes'...Minister Tama Potaka.



https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/564300/homelessness-increase-not-necessarily-due-to-government-policy-changes-minister

He then explains that ot just might be their own fault for leaving a situation in which they were being sexually abused & the decision was seen as 'contributing' to their situation by MSD.



Well of course it isn't the govt's fault. Despite them rejecting one third of housing applications...


https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/557114/third-of-emergency-housing-applications-being-rejected-by-msd


Perhaps this govt could get off its derriere & set about building decent housing...

RE: "Nowhere to go" for more than 100,000 Kiwis - Oh_hunnihunni - 25-06-2025

Think about the causes of homelessness. Not enough affordable homes where they are needed, and not enough money to pay the rent.

So, the solutions are obvious. Build more, or buy more, or update existing, and provide for affordable rents, with targeted subsidies as required.

Then we will see who 'chooses to live on the streets'.

RE: "Nowhere to go" for more than 100,000 Kiwis - zqwerty - 25-06-2025

"Perhaps this govt could get off its derriere & set about building decent housing..."

They wouldn't do that, it would mean that they wouldn't get the high prices that they get for the rentals they own.