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Where society is going... - Praktica - 03-08-2025
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/aug/02/self-termination-history-and-future-of-societal-collapse
RE: Where society is going... - zqwerty - 03-08-2025
My assessment as well.
RE: Where society is going... - Lilith7 - 03-08-2025
That idea of limiting wealth to $10 million makes a good deal of sense; too much money is very clearly extremely bad for humans.
There are Scandinvian countries where they have high taxes. And also, year after year, the world's happiest people.
I do think though that we also need an income floor so that no one has too little. And we have got to make big techs far more responsible, & as swiftly as possible. Because if we don't fix the mess we've made, then our children's chidren will suffer the consequences.
I listened to an interview Brian Bruce did with Chloe Swarbrick this morning unsurprisingly on similar lines about the inequality here these days & how best to fix it.
RE: Where society is going... - Oh_hunnihunni - 03-08-2025
One of the strongest of our human traits is greed. So I doubt we will ever be rid of trillionaires. Particularly now that they have discovered how to buy power and magnify their personal wealth. Beyond their circles the average ambitious person - usually male, btw - is being conditioned by the need to build personal wealth, by commercial, political, and media interests. It is no longer enough to house and feed your family, they have to provide the best, and secure retirement funding on top of that. In the process our communities and social structures are falling apart.
No wonder young men and women are turning to other ways of being...
RE: Where society is going... - Lilith7 - 03-08-2025
(11 hours ago)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: One of the strongest of our human traits is greed. So I doubt we will ever be rid of trillionaires. Particularly now that they have discovered how to buy power and magnify their personal wealth. Beyond their circles the average ambitious person - usually male, btw - is being conditioned by the need to build personal wealth, by commercial, political, and media interests. It is no longer enough to house and feed your family, they have to provide the best, and secure retirement funding on top of that. In the process our communities and social structures are falling apart.
No wonder young men and women are turning to other ways of being...
Hmmm...back to the communes...
I think we really have to try to somehow encourage the best of human nature rather than the worst. Teaching empathy in schools would be a good start
No one needs trillions & I suspect that having far too much is also extremely bad for humans, so we need to change that somehow.
RE: Where society is going... - king1 - 03-08-2025
we would be removing a significant chunk of the innovation and progress going down that path - think of what would not exist without the space race. Some of it is good...
RE: Where society is going... - Oh_hunnihunni - 03-08-2025
Oh there's no stopping it now... I just hope we innovate our way out of the consequences of our greed. Because it is coming, and along with the poor on low lying islands, some of those glorious clifftop mansions are right in the target zone...
RE: Where society is going... - Lilith7 - 03-08-2025
(8 hours ago)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Oh there's no stopping it now... I just hope we innovate our way out of the consequences of our greed. Because it is coming, and along with the poor on low lying islands, some of those glorious clifftop mansions are right in the target zone...
I'd like to think we can, if only for the sake of our descendants.