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Poverty not accidental in Aotearoa NZ - Lilith7 - 02-10-2025
I suspect most of us who are older had already worked this one out, but it does seem to grow worse with time. Perhaps they don't know what happens when people are pushed too far, or they don't think it could happen here....
Neo Liberalism is an unfair system. It needs to be removed. NOW'S good...
https://thespinoff.co.nz/books/25-09-2025/poverty-in-aotearoa-is-not-accidental-how-our-systems-deliberately-keep-people-poor
RE: Poverty not accidental in Aotearoa NZ - Oh_hunnihunni - 03-10-2025
I once had a really hard day on AUT's campus, I was really sore, a bit grey around the gills as a result, and really leaning on the crutch I used at that time to keep me upright. I had an evening appointment with my academic supervisor who I was arguing with over some work I was doing, it had been a long day and her office was on the third floor, so I opted for the lift. Huhana came in behind me in her wheetchair, headed for her office same floor other end of the building. She paid me a small compliment, no big thing really, but I never forgot it, and it quite literally gave me strength at a challenging time.
She is a very good person. She works immensely hard and shares her strength widely. We need more like her and maybe then we can overturn the system.
Or we can just wait for climate change to ramp up and force that overturning upon us...
RE: Poverty not accidental in Aotearoa NZ - Lilith7 - 03-10-2025
(03-10-2025, 06:00 AM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: I once had a really hard day on AUT's campus, I was really sore, a bit grey around the gills as a result, and really leaning on the crutch I used at that time to keep me upright. I had an evening appointment with my academic supervisor who I was arguing with over some work I was doing, it had been a long day and her office was on the third floor, so I opted for the lift. Huhana came in behind me in her wheetchair, headed for her office same floor other end of the building. She paid me a small compliment, no big thing really, but I never forgot it, and it quite literally gave me strength at a challenging time.
She is a very good person. She works immensely hard and shares her strength widely. We need more like her and maybe then we can overturn the system.
Or we can just wait for climate change to ramp up and force that overturning upon us...
Indeed - sometimes, it's the smallest things which can make the bit of difference we need just at that time.
RE: Poverty not accidental in Aotearoa NZ - alpha111 - 03-10-2025
I remember seeing her at Auckland Disability Law and at conferences such as Health and Disability Commissioner and Disabled Persons Assembly.
She is correct in that the Demolition Coalition is proudly promoting poverty.
RE: Poverty not accidental in Aotearoa NZ - Oh_hunnihunni - 03-10-2025
Well, poverty benefits those who build wealth on exploitation. Poor people join the military. Poor people take the shit jobs. Poor people keep the bullies in jobs. The do gooders, the religious zealots, the scammers, the power motivated. They depend on the desperate.
That's capitalism. That's colonisation. That's where excessive wealth comes from.
From the poor.
RE: Poverty not accidental in Aotearoa NZ - Lilith7 - 04-10-2025
(03-10-2025, 03:40 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Well, poverty benefits those who build wealth on exploitation. Poor people join the military. Poor people take the shit jobs. Poor people keep the bullies in jobs. The do gooders, the religious zealots, the scammers, the power motivated. They depend on the desperate.
That's capitalism. That's colonisation. That's where excessive wealth comes from.
From the poor.
Its beyond understanding, how some people knowingly exploit poor people, even to the point of physical suffering, so that they can become wealthy.
I'm not sure how they manage to sleep at night knowing that they've destroyed families, caused needless pain & even deaths all in order to become & remain, excessively wealthy.
I'm in favour of limitarianism; no one 'needs' a billion dollars, & the good which could be done with all the $ hoarded by ultra wealthy people should be morally sufficient to place limits on excessive wealth.
RE: Poverty not accidental in Aotearoa NZ - Zurdo - 05-10-2025
They know where to put fast food and liquor stores - not in rich suburbs, but in poor ones. Targeting those who don't need or afford them.
RE: Poverty not accidental in Aotearoa NZ - Oh_hunnihunni - 05-10-2025
But who are desperate for hope or dreams.
That said, I maybe should take issue with the term 'poor people', because the reality is they are people who are made poor by circumstance, just as they can be unmade poor by a change in that circumstance. Poverty should be a temporary state.
RE: Poverty not accidental in Aotearoa NZ - Lilith7 - 05-10-2025
There's also the chance that those on low incomes will be working more than one job in order to keep a roof over their heads; those people tend to have both less time & less energy in which to cook a meal & will therefore use take aways.