(06-04-2022, 08:15 AM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: It is interesting just how many of those entitled individuals who spend their lives knocking those who have more challenges in their lives then sign up for Super the moment they are eligible - on the grounds it is their right, and not a benefit. The same lot never opt out of the Winter Energy Payment either.

Both are handouts, gratefully received by those of us who depend on them. But, that kitty would stretch further if those who didn't need it didn't take it.

(07-04-2022, 09:53 AM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Butter is on my list too, along with some of the on sale green grapes. I do love a few of those with my cheese'n cracker lunch...

You probably know about it already but mersyndol is really good for nasty headaches, especially washed down with a strong coffee. It has codiene so you may need a script, I use it early for migraine if I wake up with the symptoms and it doesn't  make me sleepy or nauseous like some of the other headache stuff does. Might be worth having in the cupboard if you are prone to them.

(06-04-2022, 08:15 AM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: It is interesting just how many of those entitled individuals who spend their lives knocking those who have more challenges in their lives then sign up for Super the moment they are eligible - on the grounds it is their right, and not a benefit. The same lot never opt out of the Winter Energy Payment either.

Both are handouts, gratefully received by those of us who depend on them. But, that kitty would stretch further if those who didn't need it didn't take it.

(06-04-2022, 11:32 AM)Lilith7 Wrote: I also tend to take a dim view of those who don't need super but collect it anyway - unless they're redirecting it to some charitable group, of course - but I've not heard of many doing so.

(07-04-2022, 03:14 PM)SueDonim Wrote:

(06-04-2022, 08:15 AM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: It is interesting just how many of those entitled individuals who spend their lives knocking those who have more challenges in their lives then sign up for Super the moment they are eligible - on the grounds it is their right, and not a benefit. The same lot never opt out of the Winter Energy Payment either.

Both are handouts, gratefully received by those of us who depend on them. But, that kitty would stretch further if those who didn't need it didn't take it.

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(06-04-2022, 11:32 AM)Lilith7 Wrote: I also tend to take a dim view of those who don't need super but collect it anyway - unless they're redirecting it to some charitable group, of course - but I've not heard of many doing so.

So you both feel that those who have paid for the super shouldn't get it while those that haven't contributed are deserving?

Personally, after a lifetime of hard work - both paid and voluntary work - and living frugally, we have paid plenty of tax and contributed enough to society to take the small reward that we are entitled to. Over the years I've spent involved in non-profits, I've seen plenty of taxpayers and pensioners contributing, but few beneficiaries.

I feel for and support those who have struck hard times through no fault of their own. But today we have too many crying "poor" and "hard done by" who simply don't want to work.

(07-04-2022, 03:27 PM)Lilith7 Wrote:

(07-04-2022, 03:14 PM)SueDonim Wrote:

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So you both feel that those who have paid for the super shouldn't get it while those that haven't contributed are deserving?

Personally, after a lifetime of hard work - both paid and voluntary work - and living frugally, we have paid plenty of tax and contributed enough to society to take the small reward that we are entitled to. Over the years I've spent involved in non-profits, I've seen plenty of taxpayers and pensioners contributing, but few beneficiaries.

I feel for and support those who have struck hard times through no fault of their own. But today we have too many crying "poor" and "hard done by" who simply don't want to work.

No, that isn't what was said at all.

We were saying that those who don't need it really shouldn't claim super - which is quite a different thing. And we all pay for super; it comes from our taxes as you know.

There are any number of beneficiaries who contribute in various ways, including caring for handicapped relatives - which might save us all some taxes, mightn't it.

(07-04-2022, 03:34 PM)SueDonim Wrote:

(07-04-2022, 03:27 PM)Lilith7 Wrote: No, that isn't what was said at all.

We were saying that those who don't need it really shouldn't claim super - which is quite a different thing. And we all pay for super; it comes from our taxes as you know.

There are any number of beneficiaries who contribute in various ways, including caring for handicapped relatives - which might save us all some taxes, mightn't it.

From where I'm sitting, those who "don't need" it are likely to have contributed the most towards it and should have that reward back if they wish. And those who are taking it will often be supporting other people and/or the voluntary sector in ways that other people do not necessarily see.

My snipe at beneficiaries is not about those who have fallen on hard times outside their control and/or are supporting family, but those who simply ride the system their whole lives and never give anything back.

(07-04-2022, 03:34 PM)SueDonim Wrote:

(07-04-2022, 03:27 PM)Lilith7 Wrote: No, that isn't what was said at all.

We were saying that those who don't need it really shouldn't claim super - which is quite a different thing. And we all pay for super; it comes from our taxes as you know.

There are any number of beneficiaries who contribute in various ways, including caring for handicapped relatives - which might save us all some taxes, mightn't it.

From where I'm sitting, those who "don't need" it are likely to have contributed the most towards it and should have that reward back if they wish. And those who are taking it will often be supporting other people and/or the voluntary sector in ways that other people do not necessarily see.

My snipe at beneficiaries is not about those who have fallen on hard times outside their control and/or are supporting family, but those who simply ride the system their whole lives and never give anything back.

(07-04-2022, 03:34 PM)SueDonim Wrote:

(07-04-2022, 03:27 PM)Lilith7 Wrote: No, that isn't what was said at all.

We were saying that those who don't need it really shouldn't claim super - which is quite a different thing. And we all pay for super; it comes from our taxes as you know.

There are any number of beneficiaries who contribute in various ways, including caring for handicapped relatives - which might save us all some taxes, mightn't it.

From where I'm sitting, those who "don't need" it are likely to have contributed the most towards it and should have that reward back if they wish. And those who are taking it will often be supporting other people and/or the voluntary sector in ways that other people do not necessarily see.

My snipe at beneficiaries is not about those who have fallen on hard times outside their control and/or are supporting family, but those who simply ride the system their whole lives and never give anything back.