Idiot Trump now unable to be blocked by judges

[Lilith7]

He's managed to get the judge's power curbed & claims its a 'massive victory & will stop the barrage of injunctions 'against him.

So now, he can end birthright citizenship for the children of undocumented migrants & some temporary residents & visitors.

A judge who disagrees, Justice Sotomayor wrote that 'the court's decision is nothing less than an open invitation for the govt to bypass the constitution.'


There seems to now be nothing to stop Trump from doing whatever he likes. Poor America.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cz9yj7k5953t

[Oh_hunnihunni]

When the leader of a nation cannot be held to account, that nation is in serious peril. When that nation has the power the world has granted the US we are all in peril.

Ask Iran.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DLV4nGBz9Pc/..._copy_link

[Agent_24]

That's a very troubling turn, but it was all clearly laid out in the christian-fascist project 2025 manifesto, not that most Americans bothered to read it...

[heisenberg]

if the parents are there illegally so are the children

funny how you are all against our government encouraging immigration but want the US to take on illegal immigrants

[Oh_hunnihunni]

Illegally? Funny thing about laws - they aren't set in stone. So, for example, you have this country, where for generations children born here were New Zealanders. And then, in 2006 that current crop of legislators changed the rules to make sure citizenship applied only to those born to one citizen parent. Here, and overseas.

Why? Because the perception that birth tourism was a thing caused fear and trepidation among the lawmaking class.

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if the parents are there illegally so are the children

funny how you are all against our government encouraging immigration  but want the US to take on illegal immigrants

Btw.. 'you are all' doesn't include this child of an immigrant. One who never formally became a citizen despite seeing years of active military service in the country's army. In an actual real killing war.

I think borders are dangerous things dreamed up by human beings with agendas.

[Agent_24]

It's ironic how much the white Americans complain about immigration, when they stole the country from the natives in the first place. They really need to see their own hypocrisy and shut up forever.

[Lilith7]

if the parents are there illegally so are the children

funny how you are all against our government encouraging immigration  but want the US to take on illegal immigrants

Not so, according to their laws. Trump is riding roughshod over their law which gives citizenship to all those born there.


Really? I don't recall expressing any view on this country & illegal immigrants, hardly surprising when the subject is America & immigration, & the fact that their leader now may have not a damned thing to prevent him setting up what could be a dictatorship...

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It's ironic how much the white Americans complain about immigration, when they stole the country from the natives in the first place. They really need to see their own hypocrisy and shut up forever.

Excellent point..sadly I doubt the present govt can see much past its own agenda.

[heisenberg]

It's ironic how much the white Americans complain about immigration, when they stole the country from the natives in the first place. They really need to see their own hypocrisy and shut up forever.

so did you steal NZ from the maori? not that they ever owned the place

[Oh_hunnihunni]

Mmmm, it is an interesting point, which is debatable depending on which team the debate comes from. We have a huge advantage though over most colonised nations. And the reality is most nations are colonised nations...

We have the Treaty. There are indigenous and first nations peoples worldwide who envy us that very document, and yet I don't think we really understand just how valuable that document is, and how vital it is to the future of this nation, no matter how our demographics change as the years roll by.

[heisenberg]

Mmmm, it is an interesting point, which is debatable depending on which team the debate comes from. We have a huge advantage though over most colonised nations. And the reality is most nations are colonised nations...

We have the Treaty. There are indigenous and first nations peoples worldwide who envy us that very document, and yet I don't think we really understand just how valuable that document is, and how vital it is to the future of this nation, no matter how our demographics change as the years roll by.

which version of the treaty though?

[Oh_hunnihunni]

Well, that question, like any legal document is all about interpretation.

Makes things interesting doesn't it?

[Praktica]

The Maori version is the valid one, in my opinion. That's the version that the then rulers of the country signed.

[Agent_24]

It's ironic how much the white Americans complain about immigration, when they stole the country from the natives in the first place. They really need to see their own hypocrisy and shut up forever.

so did you steal NZ from the maori? not that they ever owned the place

What's that got to do with anything? I never said I was against immigration anyway.