Australia, two cops killed one injured

[Lilith7]

by someone calling himself a 'sovereign citizen'. They believe that govt is illegitimate...oh dear.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/571109/...-australia



'Sovereign citizen' movement



https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/571187/...n-movement

[Agent_24]

Well, to be fair, who decides that a government is legitimate? The government itself?

[king1]

Well, to be fair, who decides that a government is legitimate? The government itself?

The people, all of them, not just the idiots

[Agent_24]

Well, to be fair, who decides that a government is legitimate? The government itself?

The people, all of them, not just the idiots

And where does the government consult the people first when they think of things like this?
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/in-depth/5690...les-reform

[king1]

The people, all of them, not just the idiots

And where does the government consult the people first when they think of things like this?
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/in-depth/5690...les-reform

and that's why we have elections

[Agent_24]

And where does the government consult the people first when they think of things like this?
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/in-depth/5690...les-reform

and that's why we have elections

It's all a bit abstract though, isn't it?

[king1]

and that's why we have elections

It's all a bit abstract though, isn't it?

well the system ain't perfect...  

One could argue the King of England, being head of state, legitimises government, but I still prefer the power of the people

[Lilith7]

When any govt seems to be pandering to the alcohol indistry or big pharma or whatever, though you have to wonder if perhaps 'donations' to political parties should be abolished...