Hypocrisy at its finest -

[Jan]

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/j...NDPYBZAZM/

[Oh_hunnihunni]

While I agree whitewashing past comments is a dumb move, the current offerings from the multinational corporate provider are being likened to prison food. I wonder if giving that same provider the Bellamy's contract would help them up their game.

I'm glad I don't have kids at school, and even more grateful my offspring never had to rely on those offerings when I was parenting.

[Jan]

Hunni I saw cold fish fingers or a tablespoon of cold spaghetti or frozen cole slaw - being delivered by the last govt - Jan Tineti knows full well that there were real problems .Labour only provided lunches for one third of kiwi kids as their budgeted funds precluded them from keeping their promise of a free lunch to the remainder of schools - in fact from 2024 they had zero in their budget to continue the scheme .Labour provided Subways or Sushi or pulled pork wraps to some kids rubbish like cold fish ringers to low decile schools and absolutely nothing to 66% of kiwi kids but they still chose to use our most vulnerable kids as a political football

[king1]

and that's what happens when you outsource social media management - something about Te Puke being in Hawaii rings a bell...

[king1]

Hunni I saw cold fish fingers or a tablespoon of cold spaghetti or frozen cole slaw - being delivered by the last govt - Jan Tineti knows full well that there were real problems .Labour only provided lunches for one third of kiwi kids as their budgeted funds precluded them from keeping their promise of a free lunch to the remainder of schools - in fact from 2024 they had zero in their budget to continue the scheme .Labour provided Subways or Sushi or pulled pork wraps to some kids rubbish like cold fish ringers to low decile schools and absolutely nothing to 66% of kiwi kids but they still chose to use our most vulnerable kids as a political football

you touch on labour only supplying to a third of kids and "absolutely nothing to 66% of kiwi kids" - is national supplying all schools or what?

I recall seeing the sample meals on tele when Seymour was promoting his plan last year and I must say some of the ones I have seen in the news today look like slop compared to those...

[Oh_hunnihunni]

Hunni I saw cold fish fingers or a tablespoon of cold spaghetti or frozen cole slaw - being delivered by the last govt - Jan Tineti knows full well that there were real problems .Labour only provided lunches for one third of kiwi kids as their budgeted funds precluded them from keeping their promise of a free lunch to the remainder of schools - in fact from 2024 they had zero in their budget to continue the scheme .Labour provided Subways or Sushi or pulled pork wraps to some kids rubbish like cold fish ringers to low decile schools and absolutely nothing to 66% of kiwi kids but they still chose to use our most vulnerable kids as a political football

I doubt governments deliver school lunches Jan, but I get your point. Surely the obvious solution is to allocate funding to schools based on mouths to be fed, and let the locals do the providing. Get the government, and the corporates out of the process.

Why is it ministers seem oblivious to the obvious?

[Olive]

JanHunni I saw cold fish fingers or a tablespoon of cold spaghetti or frozen cole slaw - being delivered by the last govt - Jan Tineti knows full well that there were real problems .Labour only provided lunches for one third of kiwi kids as their budgeted funds precluded them from keeping their promise of a free lunch to the remainder of schools - in fact from 2024 they had zero in their budget to continue the scheme .Labour provided Subways or Sushi or pulled pork wraps to some kids rubbish like cold fish ringers to low decile schools and absolutely nothing to 66% of kiwi kids but they still chose to use our most vulnerable kids as a political football

I doubt governments deliver school lunches Jan, but I get your point. Surely the obvious solution is to allocate funding to schools based on mouths to be fed, and let the locals do the providing. Get the government, and the corporates out of the process.

Why is it ministers seem oblivious to the obvious?

"Surely the obvious solution is to allocate funding to schools based on mouths to be fed, and let the locals do the providing."

As I understand it that was the way it was happening before Seymour stepped in - lunches were made locally by locals and it provided significant local employment as well as decent food.   The extra overall cost of providing healthy food made by real people was nothing compared with tax breaks given to landlords.

And as always, the coalition government decision shows no sign of any policy analysis .   A single policy analyst report would show how bad food affects long term health and the associated costs of a malnourished generation.

[Oh_hunnihunni]

If that was the case, then the quality of lunches delivered was a local issue, not a government one, surely?

In my experience, schools that want better facilities, or to develop special projects or programmes often rely on their local communities. And see their ambitions realised if they can garner the support for them. Boards of trustees have an enormous role in such endeavours, bigger than a bunch of politicians in far distant Wellington.

[Praktica]

If that was the case, then the quality of lunches delivered was a local issue, not a government one, surely?

Not for Jan, if it involves a Labour government...

[Oh_hunnihunni]

I sympathise though, I am a dedicated Chloe fan and can hear no negative critique of that young woman! Or the Greens in general for that matter. Perhaps sometimes we have to have somewhere to put our hard held faith, even when it might be a tad optimistic.

Could be worse, we could be destiny fans! (Except for the IQ factor...)

[Jan]

If that was the case, then the quality of lunches delivered was a local issue, not a government one, surely?

Not for Jan, if it involves a Labour government...

My point was it shouldn’t be a political football - I saw the lunches under labour  - I have volunteered for 15 years at the locAl low decile school - the lunches for the week out of town were frozen - the contractor was being paid $20 a meal and as I previously said a thawed fish finger on a pile of pre frozen cole slaw - or a polystyrene box with a tablespoon of cold tinned spaghetti to be eaten with fingers - our headmaster banged his head against the wall 
Seymour is feeding all kids including pre school kids which has to be better than just one third of the school kids - but of course that point does not receive acknowledgment.
Recently Popeye chicken has opened in NZ - the parent company are gobsmacked at the queues forming everyday for their very expensive rubbish - there are obviously a lot of children not starving as Jan Tineti claims and the families who City Mission and Butter Bean Dave are desperately needing help - instead of blanket feeding kids at school the money should go to the Social Supermarkets which Dave and City Mission are developing - the family get their card and they can go to the social supermarket and shop - the kids can get Weetbix and milk and bread and fillings and fruit and meat and veggies with help to prepare a good easy meal- it’s a brilliant concept 
You are absolutely incorrect Pracktika - politics do not come before our most vulnerable kids -

[king1]

Just to correct a couple of points you made Jan, according to here the count is 1014 schools
https://kaorakaako.education.govt.nz/wor...-questions

apparently there are 2500+ schools in NZ - so not 'all'

and as far as politics coming before kids I would have to side with Praktica on that one - there is political capital to be gained by dissing the cost and quality of the respective school lunch programs, both Labours and Nationals. When government is picking up the tab it is always political...

[Oh_hunnihunni]

The government - of whatever flavour - SHOULD pick up the tab. If children need feeding, they must be fed. The question is who should be making the food - and for me that is a local matter, for so many reasons. Local means quality control is local along with responsibility for crap offerings. Air miles, in a green sense as well as a delivery issue. Employment, be it paid or volunteer and the downstream of that one - where are any profits going, or rather should there be any profits made? Isn't profiting in this instance taking food out of the mouths of the kids?

Why is an international corporation being allowed to profit from feeding our kids? Can our local community not do that? If not, why not?

[Lilith7]

There's an obvious solution.
Regardless of which party is in govt, identical lunches (as healthy as is possible) should be provided for both schools & politicians when parliament is in session. Compulsory, except on medical grounds which should be stringently checked with regard to the politicians since they have a certain reputation for underhandedness.

The prior system may not have been perfect but there were some aspects of it - local employment for example - which worked well. Perhaps we could look at what works well for other countries.

[Zurdo]

Jamie Pink and the Tribal Huk used to make school lunches for Ngaruawahia schools...dunno if that still happens, but just another example of the community stepping up when the Government doesn't.

[Lilith7]

Bryan Bruce on school lunches.


https://bryanbruce.substack.com/p/seymou...irect=true