ICE wants trucks to round up immigrants.

[Lilith7]

Either this person knows nothing of recent history - or worse, knows & does not care.

Reading his comments made me feel sick. That anyone can think like this in this day & age is terrifying. To look at one section of our community like this can so very,very easily be transferred to another group, & another & then another...


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025...ion-amazon

“We need to get better at treating this like a business,” the acting Ice director, Todd Lyons, said. He said that he wanted to see a deportation process “like [Amazon] Prime, but with human beings”. His comments were first reported by the Arizona Mirror.



Homan added that it “bothers him” when judges attempt to prevent him from using the act. He also said that family detention was still “on the table” as a policy.



Lyons also spoke highly of other new technology being potentially implemented in the deportation process. He expressed hopes that the agency could utilize artificial intelligence to “free up bed space” and “fill up airplanes”, allowing Ice to deport immigrants at a quicker pace."

[zqwerty]

There's a lot of sickoes around and they tend to gravitate towards positions of power where they can influence the lives of other people badly.

[king1]

dehumanizing the process is probably the only way that sane people can cope mentally with that particular job...

[dken31]

dehumanizing the process is probably the only way that sane people can cope mentally with that particular job...

Similar to how people dehumanise unborn human beings in order to avoid facing the true facts of abortion.

[Lilith7]

dehumanizing the process is probably the only way that sane people can cope mentally with that particular job...

Similar to how people dehumanise unborn human beings in order to avoid facing the true facts of abortion.

Nonsense. An embryo or foetus is NOT a fully formed, mature human.

And that isn't the subject under discussion  - any comment on that at all?

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There's a lot of sickoes around and they tend to gravitate towards positions of power where they can influence the lives of other people badly.

You have to wonder about people who actually want to have power over others.

[dken31]

Similar to how people dehumanise unborn human beings in order to avoid facing the true facts of abortion.

Nonsense. An embryo or foetus is NOT a fully formed, mature human.

And that isn't the subject under discussion  - any comment on that at all?

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My 1 year old isn't fully formed or mature; are you OK with me killing her if I deem her to be damaging to my mental health/I can't afford the financial burden/whatever other justification is generally acceptable for killing pre-birth humans?  You can put the word "not" in caps/rely on sub-categories like embryo and foetus etc. all you like, but all you're doing is proving my point that people deliberately attempt to dehumanise unborn humans as much as possible in order to make themselves feel OK with killing them.  Killing an unborn child sounds barbaric, but "aborting a foetus" is a nice, sterile, clinical procedure just like getting your tonsils removed.

Anyway, as to the the "subject under discussion", I think mistreatment of people at any stage in their development is evil.  Although I believe in a country's right to protect its borders and enforce immigration law, the person quoted in the article seem to have an unhealthy love of the power his position affords him over the lives of others and, it would appear, is more passionate about the deportation of people simply for the fun/satisfaction of doing so than for the purpose of providing stability to the US.  As such, I don't agree with his attitude/approach.

[Lilith7]

Nonsense. An embryo or foetus is NOT a fully formed, mature human.

And that isn't the subject under discussion  - any comment on that at all?

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My 1 year old isn't fully formed or mature; are you OK with me killing her if I deem her to be damaging to my mental health/I can't afford the financial burden/whatever other justification is generally acceptable for killing pre-birth humans?  You can put the word "not" in caps/rely on sub-categories like embryo and foetus etc. all you like, but all you're doing is proving my point that people deliberately attempt to dehumanise unborn humans as much as possible in order to make themselves feel OK with killing them.  Killing an unborn child sounds barbaric, but "aborting a foetus" is a nice, sterile, clinical procedure just like getting your tonsils removed.

Anyway, as to the the "subject under discussion", I think mistreatment of people at any stage in their development is evil.  Although I believe in a country's right to protect its borders and enforce immigration law, the person quoted in the article seem to have an unhealthy love of the power his position affords him over the lives of others and, it would appear, is more passionate about the deportation of people simply for the fun/satisfaction of doing so than for the purpose of providing stability to the US.  As such, I don't agree with his attitude/approach.

I think it was perfectly obvious that I wasn't referring to a toddler. Perhaps re read the post & the words 'embryo' & 'foetus' which very clearly do not refer to a fully functioning human.

If you do not want an abortion, you won't be forced or coerced to have one. And no one should be forced or coerced to continue with an unwanted pregnancy.


And I'd agree ( as I think most of us would) with your comments on the subject. Imo, he is not someone who should be in a position of power.

[king1]

dehumanizing the process is probably the only way that sane people can cope mentally with that particular job...

Similar to how people dehumanise unborn human beings in order to avoid facing the true facts of abortion.

i'm quite sure that dehumanising the unborn human being is not what happens for women in that situation - otherwise it would be an easy decision...