NZ The hidden epidemic, family violence

[Lilith7]

Came across this earlier. One every four minutes...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE2kNs2B4BQ

[king1]

a bit sobering

[Oh_hunnihunni]

Not so hidden for those in the services dealing with it every day. But ignored by those who see no benefit in dealing with it.

[Lilith7]

We desperately need to change things - a good start might be to teach empathy in schools, right through the school years.

It wouldn't be a bad idea either to encourage the better side of human nature...empathy, love, peace & all of that. Yeah, I know...

[SueDonim]

We desperately need to change things  - a good start might be to teach empathy in schools, right through the school years.

It wouldn't be a bad idea either to encourage the better side of human nature...empathy, love, peace & all of that. Yeah, I know...

Yes, fully agree.

We could start with behaviour on forums when we get people who keep saying that all politicians are bastards instead of appreciating the work they do and remembering that even when we might disagree with them they have put their hands up to do a job that the rest of us weren't willing to do and have to suffer a whole lot of abuse as thanks for their efforts.

Then we could look at guiding the kinds of people like the ones I followed down a hospital corridor when an exuberant young child starting running around and instead of holding out a welcoming hand to keep the child safely at their side, he just got sworn at and told to "get here or I'll smash you".

And talking of smashing - the language of sports reporters is often very violent. How often do we here that one team "smashed" the other? When all they did was win a game.

We have a very violent society and maybe we could all start being a bit more kind and tolerant of one another instead of just criticising everyone else all the time.

[Lilith7]

We desperately need to change things  - a good start might be to teach empathy in schools, right through the school years.

It wouldn't be a bad idea either to encourage the better side of human nature...empathy, love, peace & all of that. Yeah, I know...

Yes, fully agree.

We could start with behaviour on forums when we get people who keep saying that all politicians are bastards instead of appreciating the work they do and remembering that even when we might disagree with them they have put their hands up to do a job that the rest of us weren't willing to do and have to suffer a whole lot of abuse as thanks for their efforts.

Then we could look at guiding the kinds of people like the ones I followed down a hospital corridor when an exuberant young child starting running around and instead of holding out a welcoming hand to keep the child safely at their side, he just got sworn at and told to "get here or I'll smash you".

And talking of smashing - the language of sports reporters is often very violent. How often do we here that one team "smashed" the other? When all they did was win a game.

We have a very violent society and maybe we could all start being a bit more kind and tolerant of one another instead of just criticising everyone else all the time.

What would also be a good start could be for posters to refrain from having a dig at other posters simply due to differing views.. 

Politicians on the other hand, are & always have been seen as fair game, & I'm fairly sure that would be universally.


Definitely agree about sport though; the language is constantly similar to a kind of warfare.

A while ago when discussing this, someone suggested that as well as teaching empathy in schools, we should also be teaching meditation, & I think that;s got to be worth looking into.

I also think that we ought to be teaching parenting in high schools, with basic budgeting, cooking & gardening as well.

[SueDonim]

Yes, fully agree.

We could start with behaviour on forums when we get people who keep saying that all politicians are bastards instead of appreciating the work they do and remembering that even when we might disagree with them they have put their hands up to do a job that the rest of us weren't willing to do and have to suffer a whole lot of abuse as thanks for their efforts.

Then we could look at guiding the kinds of people like the ones I followed down a hospital corridor when an exuberant young child starting running around and instead of holding out a welcoming hand to keep the child safely at their side, he just got sworn at and told to "get here or I'll smash you".

And talking of smashing - the language of sports reporters is often very violent. How often do we here that one team "smashed" the other? When all they did was win a game.

We have a very violent society and maybe we could all start being a bit more kind and tolerant of one another instead of just criticising everyone else all the time.

What would also be a good start could be for posters to refrain from having a dig at other posters simply due to differing views.. 

Politicians on the other hand, are & always have been seen as fair game, & I'm fairly sure that would be universally.


Definitely agree about sport though; the language is constantly similar to a kind of warfare.

A while ago when discussing this, someone suggested that as well as teaching empathy in schools, we should also be teaching meditation, & I think that;s got to be worth looking into.

I also think that we ought to be teaching parenting in high schools, with basic budgeting, cooking & gardening as well.

I agree about the things we need to teach in schools. So many of today's problems stem from poor parenting, over multiple generations. An important one would also to teach about health with a view to promoting healthy behaviours from an early age. 

I totally disagree that politicians "are & always have been seen as fair game". Disrespecting and persecuting any group of people via unfounded generalisms is unacceptable and the fact that it happens so much is part of our overall problem of an inherent lack of respect for people. 

If you insert any other collective noun, eg racist, ageist, sexist, and it sits badly, then it's equally unacceptable for the group that happens to be called "politicians".

[Zurdo]

Yeah, it's only a certain section of society. It's been around a long long time, lurking...



The stories my Mother could tell...but she didn't. ''It was my life, not yours.''  One of the first things I found after she died was an exercise book with stories about her abusive family. I am very fortunate she didn't bring it forward into the next generation, it stopped with her.

[Lilith7]

What would also be a good start could be for posters to refrain from having a dig at other posters simply due to differing views.. 

Politicians on the other hand, are & always have been seen as fair game, & I'm fairly sure that would be universally.


Definitely agree about sport though; the language is constantly similar to a kind of warfare.

A while ago when discussing this, someone suggested that as well as teaching empathy in schools, we should also be teaching meditation, & I think that;s got to be worth looking into.

I also think that we ought to be teaching parenting in high schools, with basic budgeting, cooking & gardening as well.

I agree about the things we need to teach in schools. So many of today's problems stem from poor parenting, over multiple generations. An important one would also to teach about health with a view to promoting healthy behaviours from an early age. 

I totally disagree that politicians "are & always have been seen as fair game". Disrespecting and persecuting any group of people via unfounded generalisms is unacceptable and the fact that it happens so much is part of our overall problem of an inherent lack of respect for people. 

If you insert any other collective noun, eg racist, ageist, sexist, and it sits badly, then it's equally unacceptable for the group that happens to be called "politicians".

Politiciians have been targets for criticsm, & humour,often in the form of satire for well over a hundred years. At least the 1700's in the UK (Punch magazine being one of the first) &  the USA.


And given some of their actions & consequences of them, I think  thats unlikely to change. 

Unless they do, of course...

[SueDonim]

I agree about the things we need to teach in schools. So many of today's problems stem from poor parenting, over multiple generations. An important one would also to teach about health with a view to promoting healthy behaviours from an early age. 

I totally disagree that politicians "are & always have been seen as fair game". Disrespecting and persecuting any group of people via unfounded generalisms is unacceptable and the fact that it happens so much is part of our overall problem of an inherent lack of respect for people. 

If you insert any other collective noun, eg racist, ageist, sexist, and it sits badly, then it's equally unacceptable for the group that happens to be called "politicians".

Politiciians have been targets for criticsm, & humour,often in the form of satire for well over a hundred years. At least the 1700's in the UK (Punch magazine being one of the first) &  the USA.


And given some of their actions & consequences of them, I think  thats unlikely to change. 

Unless they do, of course...

I have no problem with satire. It's very cleaver when it's properly done and can "say" far more than simple criticism. I'm familiar with Punch. I have some volumes from the 19thC.

I have no problem with specific criticism of specific politicians for specific actions or intentions - when the actions or intentions quoted are true and are the responsibility of the person being criticised. 

I do have a problem with blindly calling everyone in a group of people bastards whether they are or not and criticising people en masse when some are likely to be there for the express reason of trying to do the right thing for society. They deserve support, guidance and thanks, not to be called bastards just because you disagree with them.

[Lilith7]

Politiciians have been targets for criticsm, & humour,often in the form of satire for well over a hundred years. At least the 1700's in the UK (Punch magazine being one of the first) &  the USA.


And given some of their actions & consequences of them, I think  thats unlikely to change. 

Unless they do, of course...

I have no problem with satire. It's very cleaver when it's properly done and can "say" far more than simple criticism. I'm familiar with Punch. I have some volumes from the 19thC.

I have no problem with specific criticism of specific politicians for specific actions or intentions - when the actions or intentions quoted are true and are the responsibility of the person being criticised. 

I do have a problem with blindly calling everyone in a group of people bastards whether they are or not and criticising people en masse when some are likely to be there for the express reason of trying to do the right thing for society. They deserve support, guidance and thanks, not to be called bastards just because you disagree with them.

Well...then we disagree, imo this govt like the 80's govt which  included Rioger Douglas. are in fact precisely that. Hell bent on doing as much damage as they can during their term. Which, with any luck will be their only one....

[amrist]

NZ has a 'smashed em bro' culture and that probably won't change.

[heisenberg]

NZ has a 'smashed em bro' culture and that probably won't change.

not all of new zealand mostly the aotearoans