Luxon defends election changes after Judith Collins raises problems

[Lilith7]

I'd like to think they might see sense, but if this idea is as it seems, likely to gain them more votes they'll stick with it. Very interesting that Judith Collins raised it though, when it's surely those groups who are possibly more likely to vote left.

"Judith Collins pointed out that the proposals were inconsistent with people's rights, & that 100,000 or more people  could be directly or indirectly disenfranchised by rules banning  enrolment in the final 13 days before an election, with younger people & Maori, Asian & Pasifika most likely to be affected."




https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/568...s-problems

[Oh_hunnihunni]

Depriving young people who come of voting age with that period of the chance to vote for the first time. Pretty sure that's what this conservative very white government is intending. Probably ACT sponsored...

[Lilith7]

Depriving young people who come of voting age with that period of the chance to vote for the first time. Pretty sure that's what this conservative very white government is intending. Probably ACT sponsored...

Yeah - funny that. All the really nasty stuff seems to originate from ACT..

[heisenberg]

Depriving young people who come of voting age with that period of the chance to vote for the first time. Pretty sure that's what this conservative very white government is intending. Probably ACT sponsored...

" very white"



how racist

[Praktica]

Oh_hunnihunniDepriving young people who come of voting age with that period of the chance to vote for the first time. Pretty sure that's what this conservative very white government is intending. Probably ACT sponsored...

" very white"



how racist

How very PC of you, heisenberg...

[Lilith7]

Govt is claiming that this is to ensure that a final election result is achieved sooner, however some within their own party disagree.


https://newsroom.co.nz/2025/07/30/when-i...democracy/

"Undemocratic & a breach of human rights. That's what most experts & officials think of the Govts proposed changes to electoral law."

[heisenberg]

some people go to war for the right to vote some people cant be bothered getting out of bed to vote

if you haven’t organised yourself to register to vote by the day of the election you miss out

[king1]

some people go to war for the right to vote some people cant be bothered getting out of bed to vote

if you haven’t organised yourself to register to vote by the day of the election you miss out

Why should they though?  I'm pretty damned sure any delays introduced by last minute voter registrations will be dwarfed by prolonged coalition negotiations

[harm_less]

some people go to war for the right to vote some people cant be bothered getting out of bed to vote

if you haven’t organised yourself to register to vote by the day of the election you miss out

Why should they though?  I'm pretty damned sure any delays introduced by last minute voter registrations will be dwarfed by prolonged coalition negotiations

There's also the delay related to collecting and counting 90,000+ overseas votes. Those seem to be managed okay so what exactly is the problem for a few late enrolling NZ voters?

[Lilith7]

Why should they though?  I'm pretty damned sure any delays introduced by last minute voter registrations will be dwarfed by prolonged coalition negotiations

There's also the delay related to collecting and counting 90,000+ overseas votes. Those seem to be managed okay so what exactly is the problem for a few late enrolling NZ voters?

It gives this govt an opportunity to chance their arm by trying to make changes. Which will be in their favour...

[heisenberg]

There's also the delay related to collecting and counting 90,000+ overseas votes. Those seem to be managed okay so what exactly is the problem for a few late enrolling NZ voters?

It gives this govt an opportunity to chance their arm by trying to make changes. Which will be in their favour...

at least this government hasn’t locked people out of the country, forced people out of their jobs, etc etc like the last be kind pack of rsoles

[king1]

It gives this govt an opportunity to chance their arm by trying to make changes. Which will be in their favour...

at least this government hasn’t locked people out of the country, forced people out of their jobs, etc etc like the last be kind pack of rsoles

and in the process saved the lives of 20000 odd New Zealanders...  Covid, global pandemic, lockdown, any of that sound familiar?

Folks were warned in advance and told to get back to nz.

[Lilith7]

It gives this govt an opportunity to chance their arm by trying to make changes. Which will be in their favour...

at least this government hasn’t locked people out of the country, forced people out of their jobs, etc etc like the last be kind pack of rsoles

'Forced people out of jobs"...but wait, there's more..under this govt.


https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/562...-been-axed

[jim157]

at least this government hasn’t locked people out of the country, forced people out of their jobs, etc etc like the last be kind pack of rsoles

'Forced people out of jobs"...but wait, there's more..under this govt.


https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/562...-been-axed

good, labour tripled the size of the public service, get rid of the dead wood

[harm_less]

'Forced people out of jobs"...but wait, there's more..under this govt.


https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/562...-been-axed

good, labour tripled the size of the public service, get rid of the dead wood

Much of those you're referring to as "dead wood" are integral to maintaining social services but I guess at the rate Kiwis are exiting the country lately that will be a shrinking need for the coming years.

[Praktica]

'Forced people out of jobs"...but wait, there's more..under this govt.


https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/562...-been-axed

good, labour tripled the size of the public service, get rid of the dead wood

Maths not your strong suit jimmy?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/3504616...-workforce

An increase of 30% is not a trebling...

[harm_less]

good, labour tripled the size of the public service, get rid of the dead wood

Maths not your strong suit jimmy?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/3504616...-workforce

An increase of 30% is not a trebling...

Can't let facts get in the way of a good conspiracy theory 

[jim157]

Maths not your strong suit jimmy?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/3504616...-workforce

An increase of 30% is not a trebling...

Can't let facts get in the way of a good conspiracy theory 

just 30% of dead wood then thats ok is it

[harm_less]

Can't let facts get in the way of a good conspiracy theory 

just 30% of dead wood then thats ok is it

One man's "dead wood" is another's social support services, but if you don't give a toss about those less 'entitled' than yourself your priorities may well vary accordingly.