Charlie Kirk Assassination

[Lilith7]

And yet you continue to sling accusations at those of a left leaning/liberal persuasion and denigrate Te Pāti Māori ideologies. Seems like a disconnect, or lack of self-awareness?

Or maybe a genuine opinion underpinning regular use of the wooden spoon?

This leftist feminist witch rather enjoys the opportunity to punch back when it presents itself. Especially here where we could be accused of being a little too much a community of like minds!

Many yuears ago I came across a very old saying:"And it harm none, do what ye will" which sems to cover just about everything.

If we could just manage it...

[Praktica]

I'm picking that the arrested guy won't make it to trial...there will be an "accident" - he knows too much.

[Lilith7]

I'm picking that the arrested guy won't make it to trial...there will be an "accident" - he knows too much.

That wouldn't surprise me..

[Oh_hunnihunni]

Like the guy who shot at Trump you mean? Haven't heard anything about him lately.

[Lilith7]

Like the guy who shot at Trump you mean? Haven't heard anything about him lately.

Might have been rewarded, given a new ID & legged it elsewhere...

[harm_less]

Like the guy who shot at Trump you mean? Haven't heard anything about him lately.

This guy? The earlier attempt in Pennsylvania was shot dead at the scene.

[Oh_hunnihunni]

The golf course attempt?

[Praktica]

The golf course attempt?

He's on trial at the moment.

[harm_less]

The golf course attempt?

At Trump's Florida golf course. That's the court case the video above relates to.

[Lilith7]

If that's anything to go by, he sounds a bit disturbed.

[dken31]

People have understandably jumped on Charlie Kirk's "view" that gays should be stoned, because that would be a pretty shocking and abhorrent view to hold. But this is what he actually said about the matter:
https://www.instagram.com/p/DOlpE-rEWFZ/

This is him being racist though: https://www.instagram.com/p/DOmiLe_D6JE/

[Lilith7]

People have understandably jumped on Charlie Kirk's "view" that gays should be stoned, because that would be a pretty shocking and abhorrent view to hold.  But this is what he actually said about the matter:
https://www.instagram.com/p/DOlpE-rEWFZ/

This is him being racist though: https://www.instagram.com/p/DOmiLe_D6JE/

Interesting that whoever posted that 'blames the left media'...

[Oh_hunnihunni]

Nice comment on insta today 'If people want folk to be kind about them when they die, perhaps they should consider being kind themselves, while they are alive.'

Something we could all think about.

The other thing about this business that I cannot get past, is the boy's age. He's 22. Medical science has proved the male brain is not fully developed until the mid twenties at the earliest, the last part to reach maturity being where decisions get made in rational ways, where consequences can be forecast. But then, the US is so anti science these days.

[Lilith7]

Nice comment on insta today 'If people want folk to be kind about them when they die, perhaps they should consider being kind themselves, while they are alive.'

Something we could all think about.

The other thing about this business that I cannot get past, is the boy's age. He's 22. Medical science has proved the male brain is not fully developed until the mid twenties at the earliest, the last part to reach maturity being where decisions get made in rational ways, where consequences can be forecast. But then, the US is so anti science these days.

Definitely agree - if we're to act on what's been learned about the human brain then that would mean some fairly massive changes to society.
 No one with an incomplete,immature brain should be permited to drive, surely.
 And surely those whose brains can't yet cope with risk taking & consequences due to that part of their brain being not yet fully developed, should be dissuaded from things like marrying, or  having kids.

And fairly obviously no one whose brain is still immature should ever be able to enter the police force,or the army or any of the armed services. And nor should they have any acess whatsoever to weapons of any kind. 
Nor should they vote...


And all of that would mean huge changes for society; so its extremely likely we're just going to sweep that brain development stuff under the carpet.
Despite the blardy great bumps in it...

[dken31]

I saw a short clip the other day which pointed out something I thought was quite interesting:

For essentially all of human history, most societies have essentially operated under the principle of "might is right", whereby the chief/lord/king/emperor with the strongest armies and best connections takes power for themselves by force. Within that framework, assassinations were generally carried out by/for those that stood to gain from removal of the person(s) that was assassinated, and that wasn't a secret.

However, in relatively recent western history (the past 150-ish years), the rich and powerful have surprisingly decided to all start being "nice & kind" and to play by the rules etc., so they no longer use political assassinations as a means to acquire or maintain power.

The crazy coincidence though is that this shift in the practices of the rich and powerful - i.e. the ones that actually benefit from the assassinations - has surprisingly coincided with a rise in assassinations carried out by "lone gunmen" and disaffected people on the fringes of society who seemingly don't actually personally benefit at all (sometimes even, as with Lee Harvey Oswald, they themselves are almost immediately assassinated also).

[zqwerty]

Yeah it's all because of the bad example of dumb Trumpism, he's brought the 50's authoritarianism back coupled with male bombastic behaviour coupled with general ignorance and intolerance.

Department of War no less, he'll be part of causing the 3rd World War I reckon.

[king1]

However, in relatively recent western history (the past 150-ish years), the rich and powerful have surprisingly decided to all start being "nice & kind" and to play by the rules etc., so they no longer use political assassinations as a means to acquire or maintain power.

I would like to think it was more to do with the establishment of formal law enforcement agencies with investigative skills and real world consequences for murderers...  rather than the rich and powerful simply deciding to be nice and kind...

Other point is the population of the planet has grown rapidly over the last couple of centuries, too many people in one place is never a good outcome...

[zqwerty]

Yes almost all our troubles are due to over population, however this doesn't apply to NZ, we are just affected by the problem in the rest of the world coupled with global warming because of the population over load.

[Lilith7]

I saw a short clip the other day which pointed out something I thought was quite interesting:

For essentially all of human history, most societies have essentially operated under the principle of "might is right", whereby the chief/lord/king/emperor with the strongest armies and best connections takes power for themselves by force. Within that framework, assassinations were generally carried out by/for those that stood to gain from removal of the person(s) that was assassinated, and that wasn't a secret.

However, in relatively recent western history (the past 150-ish years), the rich and powerful have surprisingly decided to all start being "nice & kind" and to play by the rules etc., so they no longer use political assassinations as a means to acquire or maintain power.

The crazy coincidence though is that this shift in the practices of the rich and powerful - i.e. the ones that actually benefit from the assassinations - has surprisingly coincided with a rise in assassinations carried out by "lone gunmen" and disaffected people on the fringes of society who seemingly don't actually personally benefit at all (sometimes even, as with Lee Harvey Oswald, they themselves are almost immediately assassinated also).

" However, in relatively recent western history (the past 150-ish years), the rich and powerful have surprisingly decided to all start being "nice & kind" and to play by the rules etc., so they no longer use political assassinations as a means to acquire or maintain power."


Yeah.. sort of. On the surface anyway.
But there are other ways for the rich & powerful to get what they want. 

Making very sure those less well off are slowly made even  less well off. But not too slowly, of course. They need to feel the pinch eventually.

"Donating" to political parties.

Entering politics.

And of course, by generally being devious,underhanded b'stards...