Jacinda interview on The Daily Show

[zqwerty]

If you go to the ultimate end of left wing you basically become Jesus, trying to make a world of compatible people suitable for everyone so they all get on, (impossible) but if you go to the extreme of right wing you turn into a despot and become like trump or even worse.

Right wing extreme capitalists become so tyrannical that it's impossible to believe that they are of sound mind and body hence all the left wing criticism of these born again Hitlers etc. cf (2025) Peter Thiel like fascists and those who seem to want to spend their unthinking lives playing the game set up by businessmen to gather more and more money to the detriment of all other goals and buy more crap with it.

[Praktica]

point 1: It is just a little possible she quit because of all the hate and misogyny being spewed out, possibly even fear for her life

point 2. Everyone is generally treated equally here, even you Heisenberg, as long as everyone plays by the rules - same rules apply to everyone. If you feel that is not the case please use the REPORT button to flag the message.  Otherwise the door is over there...

 apparently im a right wing autistic shitposting troll

Self awareness?

[heisenberg]

If you go to the ultimate end of left wing you basically become Jesus, trying to make a world of compatible people suitable for everyone so they all get on, (impossible) but if you go to the extreme of right wing you turn into a despot and become like trump or even worse.

Right wing extreme capitalists become so tyrannical that it's impossible to believe that they are of sound mind and body hence all the left wing criticism of these born again Hitlers etc. cf (2025)  Peter Thiel like fascists and those who seem to want to spend their unthinking lives playing the game set up by businessmen to gather more and more money to the detriment of all other goals and buy more crap with it.

you believe in jesus

lol

and yet anti vaxxers are science deniers. wheres the science in jesus

[king1]

point 1: It is just a little possible she quit because of all the hate and misogyny being spewed out, possibly even fear for her life

point 2. Everyone is generally treated equally here, even you Heisenberg, as long as everyone plays by the rules - same rules apply to everyone. If you feel that is not the case please use the REPORT button to flag the message.  Otherwise the door is over there...

point 1 ..........sure

point 2.......... some are more equal than others depending on how far to the left you are apparently im a right wing autistic shitposting troll

well you have to admit some of your posts could be construed as shitposting and trolling ( admittedly your definition of trolling is probably very different to ours) - the rest of that is just someone's opinion, obviously no-one can really know who any particular user really is.

[heisenberg]

point 1 ..........sure

point 2.......... some are more equal than others depending on how far to the left you are apparently im a right wing autistic shitposting troll

well you have to admit some of your posts could be construed as shitposting and trolling ( admittedly your definition of trolling is probably very different to ours) - the rest of that is just someone's opinion, obviously no-one can really know who any particular user really is.

the doors over there apparently

[king1]

well you have to admit some of your posts could be construed as shitposting and trolling ( admittedly your definition of trolling is probably very different to ours) - the rest of that is just someone's opinion, obviously no-one can really know who any particular user really is.

the doors over there apparently

yep... shiny red door...

[zqwerty]

Do you know what simile, metaphor and hyperbole mean, heisenberg, do you realize that literal is a very simplistic way of looking at the world?

[heisenberg]

Do you know what simile, metaphor and hyperbole mean, heisenberg, do you realize that literal is a very simplistic way of looking at the world?

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[Praktica]

Do you know what simile, metaphor and hyperbole mean, heisenberg, do you realize that literal is a very simplistic way of looking at the world?

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Voices for freedom...that well known source of well researched scientific advice, not in the least related to a bunch of cookers and ignorant morons, oh no...

[Lilith7]

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Voices for freedom...that well known source of well researched scientific advice, not in the least related to a bunch of cookers and ignorant morons, oh no...

Not even slightly...

And not at all right wing,either...


Or even a tiny bit nuts, either..

(Scroll down - I especially like the plonker practically bowing - & the look on Winnie's face is priceless!)




https://www.thepost.co.nz/politics/35006...s-nz-first

[heisenberg]

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Voices for freedom...that well known source of well researched scientific advice, not in the least related to a bunch of cookers and ignorant morons, oh no...

you must have missed this interview

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBv8YOrnXz0

[king1]

Do you know what simile, metaphor and hyperbole mean, heisenberg, do you realize that literal is a very simplistic way of looking at the world?

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I think that one could be summarized as misinformation, on the basis that her words were taken out of context. 

Another way of saying what she was really saying? 
You have less rights if you remained unvaccinated than those folks that chose to be vaccinated, yep, yep...

Just as is the case for:
prisoners:  incarcerated vs not incarcerated
criminals: facing justice vs having your freedom 
bad drivers:  Accumulate demerit points vs have a clean driving record
Fraudsters:  Bad credit rating vs  good credit rating

Not really classes of people as such is it? or if it is there are literally hundreds of different 'classes'.
It is simply people that abide by the rules of society get to live their lives with relative normality, and those that don't have to face the consequences of their actions...

[harm_less]

Voices for freedom...that well known source of well researched scientific advice, not in the least related to a bunch of cookers and ignorant morons, oh no...

you must have missed this interview

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBv8YOrnXz0

The cookers seem to have conveniently forgotten that the government was doing its level best to limit the spread of a novel virus through this country's population at the time that the interview you've quoted refers to with no pre-planned strategy to guide them. 

Would you have sooner had a situation unfold here with freezer trucks used to contain morgue overflow like what happened in the US & UK? Or a barely coping health sector to be pushed past breaking point at the time it was most crucial for it care for NZers?

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It is simply people that abide by the rules of society get to live their lives with relative normality, and those that don't have to face the consequences of their actions...

And those consequences ran the risk of placing the population in general at serious harm.

NZ was a ship at risk of sinking and the bulkhead doors were closed to prevent us going down and the rest issued life jackets. Of course there would be people disadvantaged. Trapped behind the locked doors in my analogy, but that's just what happens in an emergency and if you were in the wrong place at the wrong time that's tough and similarly if you were too precious to don a life jacket.

[heisenberg]

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I think that one could be summarized as misinformation, on the basis that her words were taken out of context. 

Another way of saying what she was really saying? 
You have less rights if you remained unvaccinated than those folks that chose to be vaccinated, yep, yep...

yea sure they were, just like when she said people that weren’t vaccinated wouldn’t face any consequences

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you must have missed this interview

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBv8YOrnXz0

The cookers seem to have conveniently forgotten that the government was doing its level best to limit the spread of a novel virus through this country's population at the time that the interview you've quoted refers to with no pre-planned strategy to guide them. 

Would you have sooner had a situation unfold here with freezer trucks used to contain morgue overflow like what happened in the US & UK? Or a barely coping health sector to be pushed past breaking point at the time it was most crucial for it care for NZers?

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It is simply people that abide by the rules of society get to live their lives with relative normality, and those that don't have to face the consequences of their actions...

And those consequences ran the risk of placing the population in general at serious harm.

NZ was a ship at risk of sinking and the bulkhead doors were closed to prevent us going down and the rest issued life jackets. Of course there would be people disadvantaged. Trapped behind the locked doors in my analogy, but that's just what happens in an emergency and if you were in the wrong place at the wrong time that's tough and similarly if you were too precious to don a life jacket.

if they were doing such a grand job why not come back and face the covid inquiry explain where all the billions of dollars went

[harm_less]

if they were doing such a grand job why not come back and face the covid inquiry explain where all the billions of dollars went

Probably because all the information required of her was able to be ascertained via video link and if she was to attend the inquiry in person it would have turned into a performance piece for a bunch of jackass cookers.

No hidden economics as you suggest either. Billions of dollars doesn't go far in a health crisis as dire as the one we were facing with COVID.

[king1]

its well known where all the billions of dollars went Heisenberg

This should start you off
https://www.treasury.govt.nz/information...allocation

[Oh_hunnihunni]

I dunno, king... there's an awful lot of big words in that piece...

[heisenberg]

if they were doing such a grand job why not come back and face the covid inquiry explain where all the billions of dollars went

Probably because all the information required of her was able to be ascertained via video link and if she was to attend the inquiry in person it would have turned into a performance piece for a bunch of jackass cookers.

No hidden economics as you suggest either. Billions of dollars doesn't go far in a health crisis as dire as the one we were facing with COVID.

yea it wasn’t all spent on covid

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I dunno, king... there's an awful lot of big words in that piece...

Perhaps you could ask your carers to explain them to you

[king1]

I dunno, king... there's an awful lot of big words in that piece...

Perhaps you could ask your carers to explain them to you

sarcasm
noun
the use of irony to mock or convey contempt.
"she didn't like the note of sarcasm in his voice"

[harm_less]

yea it wasn’t all spent on covid

Put up some facts to support your accusations. Your piss biscuit routine is wearing very thin.