you are all missing my point.
im neither pro luxon or pro ardern. i dont care for either of them, but im not going to make shit up to try and influence someone else.
im just pro fair.
i dont find mr campbells comments to be offensive, nor did i find mr luxons words offensive. just unfair.
im just keeping it real, we get all up in arms about the childish stupid shit they write about the pm,
but then to give credence to someone doing it to the leader of the opposition is just not fair.
if we cannot recognise ourselves doing something we decry in others what does that make us.?
hypocrites.
this is why i dislike partisan politics and people who fall left or right for life.
it reduces your choices to the one party you back regardless of the policy content or personality.
some of you are stuck voting only one way, which is fine but doesnt make for good governance, we do democracy because of the choices it offers. to then turn around and replace your choices with blind faith seems counter intuitive.
no different than saying we will build 10000 houses knowing full well you were going to do no such thing
no different than touting yourselves as the party of delivery, then delivering next to nothing.
what mr luxon might do is up in the air., we cannot put words in his mouth.
what ms ardern does is done. we may judge her accordingly.
who called the west coasters 'inbred ferals?' (ms clark)
who called the protesters 'maggots' (mr mallard)
who labelled chloe swarbrick a junkie? (i cant remember lol)
who called mr robinson a fat homosexual? (i think that might have been me)
as far as i know, these are all new zealand citizens.
its good that we discuss this.
it would seem that being called out for hypocrisy is ruffling some feathers. it must be because they are apolitical centrists
(see how silly that sounds when you try to make someone something they are not by inference?)
and as i have said, neither commentator said anything offensive, it was an opinion piece, based on a misrepresentation, but opinion nonetheless.
go back and have a read how this 'opinion' was presented, and how you interpreted it as fact and then commenced the shit kicking.
ive little doubt we will see hit pieces on the pm in the future.
but maybe we can be fair about it instead of twisting everything up to suit a narrative.
saying someone said something they did not is misinformation, more commonly known as lies.
how is this different to mr gayfords case?
i dont have a bee in my bonnet about mr luxon or ms ardern,
i have a bee in my bonnet about us, our own credibility.
it makes us something i dont want to be.
im neither pro luxon or pro ardern. i dont care for either of them, but im not going to make shit up to try and influence someone else.
im just pro fair.
i dont find mr campbells comments to be offensive, nor did i find mr luxons words offensive. just unfair.
im just keeping it real, we get all up in arms about the childish stupid shit they write about the pm,
but then to give credence to someone doing it to the leader of the opposition is just not fair.
if we cannot recognise ourselves doing something we decry in others what does that make us.?
hypocrites.
this is why i dislike partisan politics and people who fall left or right for life.
it reduces your choices to the one party you back regardless of the policy content or personality.
some of you are stuck voting only one way, which is fine but doesnt make for good governance, we do democracy because of the choices it offers. to then turn around and replace your choices with blind faith seems counter intuitive.
Quote:lillithno different than saying you are the party of transparency and then do things behind closed doors and without consultation.
I mean seriously, you just can't be using terminology like bottom feeders when you "care deeply about the vulnerable and the poor" and expect to be taken seriously...
no different than saying we will build 10000 houses knowing full well you were going to do no such thing
no different than touting yourselves as the party of delivery, then delivering next to nothing.
what mr luxon might do is up in the air., we cannot put words in his mouth.
what ms ardern does is done. we may judge her accordingly.
Quote:king1hmmmm.
Lets ignore the fact he called a group of New Zealand citizens bottom feeders - let's twist the words around and make it the media's fault...
who called the west coasters 'inbred ferals?' (ms clark)
who called the protesters 'maggots' (mr mallard)
who labelled chloe swarbrick a junkie? (i cant remember lol)
who called mr robinson a fat homosexual? (i think that might have been me)
as far as i know, these are all new zealand citizens.
(26-03-2022, 07:23 PM)king1 Wrote: I have no idea why you got such a bee in your bonnet over this Magoo... I surmise an anti labour, anti Adern, pro Nat kinda thing is obvious. Maybe the nats send out a mailer requesting the party faithful to discredit that article perhaps? IDKgood god, now youre putting words in my mouth. who said anything about banning people or content?
and no we are not opening slur gates... the article the OP linked is an opinion piece, one person's opinion, that's all, nothing more. Everyone is entitled to their opinions on it. How the heck that can be considered misinformation I have no idea?
I'm quite certain their will be equally trashy pieces of journalism targeting Adern before the month is out, should we be banning all such content, just because it offends ones political leanings?
its good that we discuss this.
it would seem that being called out for hypocrisy is ruffling some feathers. it must be because they are apolitical centrists
(see how silly that sounds when you try to make someone something they are not by inference?)
and as i have said, neither commentator said anything offensive, it was an opinion piece, based on a misrepresentation, but opinion nonetheless.
go back and have a read how this 'opinion' was presented, and how you interpreted it as fact and then commenced the shit kicking.
ive little doubt we will see hit pieces on the pm in the future.
but maybe we can be fair about it instead of twisting everything up to suit a narrative.
saying someone said something they did not is misinformation, more commonly known as lies.
how is this different to mr gayfords case?
i dont have a bee in my bonnet about mr luxon or ms ardern,
i have a bee in my bonnet about us, our own credibility.
it makes us something i dont want to be.
So if you disappear out of view You know I will never say goodbye