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Myocarditis caused by Covid vaccine led to Dunedin man's death - coroner
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(21-09-2022, 11:57 AM)C_T_Russell Wrote:
(21-09-2022, 10:18 AM)SueDonim Wrote: Some of the news during the inquest reported that the coroner was asking about what information had been given about risks of the vaccine, and I think that is probably key. If (ie IF) he had known the risks, maybe he would have paid more attention to the symptoms when they arose and therefore sought and received timely treatment. So far we've been told that it is now established that the vaccination caused the myocarditis, but was the death caused by the fact that the myocarditis wasn't recognised and treated in time?

It is known that the vaccine can cause myocarditis in about 20 cases per million recipients. Covid itself causes at least double the number of myocarditis cases, and they are more likely to be severe. So in spite of what the CTs are likely to say, having the vaccine is still way safer.

It's also worth noting that other vaccines such as for flu also cause myocarditis, as does catching flu. Vaccines aren't a complete safety net, but are safer than getting sick.
I think there definitely has been an error in not providing this person all the relative info about the risks and benefits of the vaccine.
I must say this is all too much a common issue with many medications and drugs in general, not just vaccines.
Looks like the ministry of health is trying to throw the person under the bus who administered the vaccine and/or their medical practice, looks like they are playing the blame game now.


I know a ton of people who have had the jab and not one of them was informed of any of the risks of receiving the vaccine, all they got told was the usual "safe and effective" narrative that was aired on the TV commercials, if they even mentioned the slightest of risks on any of the propaganda, do you think you would see many lining up to take the jab?

TBH, i was surprised my nurse informed me about the risks (this was prior to any mandates).
Im happy i didnt recieve the jab, even if those risks were low, I was happy to risk catching covid vs the little if any benefit the vaccine was going to provide for a rapidly evolving virus.

Especially for the fact that the vaccine never went through the vigorous trials like many vaccines are required to go through.
Its not a good enough excuse to say that its been administered to millions and is considered safe, any clinical trials require follow ups months and years down the track in many cases, so its too late by the time its dished out to everyone if they discover something is wrong.

Now there is a study in Thailand that suggests about 1 in 300 people have suffered some form of negative symptoms to the vaccine, this is some cause for concern.
I know about 3 people who have suffered reactions to the vaccine, and another one or two people who dint feel the "same" after the first shot and didnt go back for a second.

Only time will tell if this vaccine was worth it.
The reasons other countries suffered so bad with covid such as the US, is because they had the alpha strain spread round in their country which was much more severe, by the time we had delta and omicron, it was a much more mild virus.
There is now even some evidence to suggest RAT tests dont detect the virus anymore because its evolved so much more.
Some of that is just BS CT.
  • It has been made clear that the risk of myocarditis was not required to be spelled out in the early days, it was not an oversight or omission - just not considered enough I guess with the current thinking at the time.  Everyone was learning fast as the pandemic progressed
  • There were obviously clinical trials, they were accelerated, and on smaller sample groups (about 50,000) than normal, but they were done - time was of the essence obviously...   Clinical trials, safety reviews are still progressing now.
  • America:  well those douchebags avoided lockdowns until the last minute, and a federal government that had an idiot in charge and no real teeth or inclination to mandate anything - that is why they had such high numbers of deaths (all attributable to 'the Don' IMHO).  We avoided this by being able to institute lockdowns during the alpha strain, prior to the release of vaccines.  

I have heard that the rats don't show a positive result until you've had covid for a few days before the symptoms show up, so from that point of view I think they are just a little bit pointless now...
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RE: Myocarditis caused by Covid vaccine led to Dunedin man's death - coroner - by king1 - 21-09-2022, 12:36 PM

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