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Myocarditis caused by Covid vaccine led to Dunedin man's death - coroner
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(21-09-2022, 12:36 PM)king1 Wrote:
(21-09-2022, 11:57 AM)C_T_Russell Wrote: I think there definitely has been an error in not providing this person all the relative info about the risks and benefits of the vaccine.
I must say this is all too much a common issue with many medications and drugs in general, not just vaccines.
Looks like the ministry of health is trying to throw the person under the bus who administered the vaccine and/or their medical practice, looks like they are playing the blame game now.


I know a ton of people who have had the jab and not one of them was informed of any of the risks of receiving the vaccine, all they got told was the usual "safe and effective" narrative that was aired on the TV commercials, if they even mentioned the slightest of risks on any of the propaganda, do you think you would see many lining up to take the jab?

TBH, i was surprised my nurse informed me about the risks (this was prior to any mandates).
Im happy i didnt recieve the jab, even if those risks were low, I was happy to risk catching covid vs the little if any benefit the vaccine was going to provide for a rapidly evolving virus.

Especially for the fact that the vaccine never went through the vigorous trials like many vaccines are required to go through.
Its not a good enough excuse to say that its been administered to millions and is considered safe, any clinical trials require follow ups months and years down the track in many cases, so its too late by the time its dished out to everyone if they discover something is wrong.

Now there is a study in Thailand that suggests about 1 in 300 people have suffered some form of negative symptoms to the vaccine, this is some cause for concern.
I know about 3 people who have suffered reactions to the vaccine, and another one or two people who dint feel the "same" after the first shot and didnt go back for a second.

Only time will tell if this vaccine was worth it.
The reasons other countries suffered so bad with covid such as the US, is because they had the alpha strain spread round in their country which was much more severe, by the time we had delta and omicron, it was a much more mild virus.
There is now even some evidence to suggest RAT tests dont detect the virus anymore because its evolved so much more.
Some of that is just BS CT.
  • It has been made clear that the risk of myocarditis was not required to be spelled out in the early days, it was not an oversight or omission - just not considered enough I guess with the current thinking at the time.  Everyone was learning fast as the pandemic progressed
  • There were obviously clinical trials, they were accelerated, and on smaller sample groups (about 50,000) than normal, but they were done - time was of the essence obviously...   Clinical trials, safety reviews are still progressing now.
  • America:  well those douchebags avoided lockdowns until the last minute, and a federal government that had an idiot in charge and no real teeth or inclination to mandate anything - that is why they had such high numbers of deaths (all attributable to 'the Don' IMHO).  We avoided this by being able to institute lockdowns during the alpha strain, prior to the release of vaccines.  

I have heard that the rats don't show a positive result until you've had covid for a few days before the symptoms show up, so from that point of view I think they are just a little bit pointless now...
My nurse told me about the myocarditis well before it was even rolled out on a mass scale in NZ, so this should have been something mentioned to the patient involved here.
If clinical trials are still progressing, what does that say? Whats even the point of it all if its been given to billions of people by now and they find something serious?

Why do we have to wait 55 years for all this data?
https://www.reuters.com/legal/government...021-11-18/

Also I want to see the clear data of the rates of myocarditis for unvaxxed vs vaxxed, I cant find anything.

My RATs test gave me a weak positive on the second day I had symptoms, and on the third day it was a strong reading, now it appears it takes much longer as you say, that could be also due to people receiving natural immunity after previously having caught covid, so their bodys immune system is fighting it off much faster before many virus particles can be shed.


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RE: Myocarditis caused by Covid vaccine led to Dunedin man's death - coroner - by C_T_Russell - 21-09-2022, 01:11 PM

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