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River of freedom documentary trailer
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(03-03-2023, 02:58 PM)SueDonim Wrote: Here we go again! My comments in italics.
mine in bold


We can now learn it was never tested for preventing transmission.
It was always known that it wouldn't totally prevent transmission. Total transmission prevention is not possible - you can have it on your hands and pass it to the next person even if you never actually "catch". The point of the jab is that if EVERYONE is vaccinated, there will be less transmission and less severe illness in the population as a whole. I really wish you could understand that.
The whole point of a vaccine is to stop spread of a disease, not to "lessen" symptoms.



I would say that natural immunity is better.
NO NO NO. It is well proven that "natural" immunity is far less effective than vaccine immunity. Some people even get covid twice within a few weeks.

Natural immunity is better - fact! To say otherwise is an insult to your bodys natural defences!
This typically applies to any disease, remember that the vaccine only trains your body to recognize the spike protein.
If you catch covid, your immune system will get a footprint of all aspects of the virus, including the many other proteins the virus contains, along with the genetic material inside the virus.
Dont believe me?
There are many credible sources that either say its at least as good or better than the immunity the vaccine provides.

[b]I dont have to be jabbed every 3-6 months for any other disease, so why covid?

The whole population has now largely gained natural immunity so vaccines should not even be required, it will just be like any normal cold or flu strain in the community.
SEE BELOW TRUSTED SOURCE
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35380632/

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"Conclusions: Naturally acquired immunity confers stronger protection against infection and symptomatic disease caused by the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2, compared to the BNT162b2 2-dose vaccine-indued immunity."[/b]


Is there any evidence the unvaxxed caused an overload to the heallth system?
There is plenty of evidence that covid caused an overload in the health system. I also remember that our daily numbers used to include information about vaxxed v unvaxxed and it was clear that although plenty of hospitalisations were vaxxed, the number of unvaxxed was disproportionately high.So, it's clear that having the majority of people vaxxed reduced the overall health system stress, and also, if there were no unvaxxed people at all, there would have been a lot less virus kicking around.

How many unvaxxed people needed ICU treatment?
You could go back and look up the figures yourself. I don't feel a need to. I have spent many hours looking up data to properly answer your questions in the past and have learnt that it's a waste of time.

Ive already done some digging and most serious cases were vaxxed people, but because so many were vaxxed, everyone will just argue thats the reason why so few unvaxxed died or ended up in ICU.
The truth hurts.


So many basic human rights were stolen from many of us for the sake of many who refused medical treatment, doesnt even matter what reasons.
The basic human rights that were stolen were from those who got vaccinated, wore masks and isolated themselves because it was the right and sensible thing to do, but had their lives turned upside down by an out of control virus that could have been squashed at the start if EVERYONE had done their bit. Those that lost jobs because of their "anti" stance were mostly health and teaching professionals who should know how to read and critically evaluate information. They showed that they didn't have these basic skills and were therefore incompetent in those jobs. Hopefully the next generation of both professions will have learned those basic skills and will do what is needed when the next virus hits us.

One of my GP's was totally against it and I first learned about the myocarditis from the nurse at my clinic, i thank her for alerting me about it, she said its easily treatable, which i know is BS, but at least she told me, I get the feeling she knew it was bad, but told me in the most professional way possible as not to sound "anti"
Total respect for telling me about the side effects, very few got informed before receiving it.


I was just apprehensive of being a guniea pig.
No one in the general population was a guinea pig. The guinea pigs for mRNA vaccine research were way back before this pandemic even started.

mRNA may have had human studies, but what vaccine was tested on humans before hand? Why did it take covid to introduce it? The issue with this virus is that it has a dangerous protein and the potential for the mRNA to enter cells in other parts of the body such as the heart was not well understood.

I may have taken the jab after seeing that no one had any issues, but the fact is that there are significant side effects coming to the surface and im glad i didnt take it.
Fear of the possible side effects is legitimate, but for any thinking person, fear of the virus is greater. That's why we all had the jab and put up with a few days of side effects, knowing that overall we and everyone around us would be safer from more severed illness.

Lots of things are said to be safe and then down the track after many years new discoverys are made. Here is an example, I had to have an MRI and receive contrast containing gadolinium, turns out this stuff stays in the brain, but they are still using it, I wish I had done more research into using it before accepting it. They initially believed your kidneys removed all of it, but now they learned some of it remains in your body. Who knows what implications this stuff has, but looks like the risk increases if you have multiple scans with the contrast injections.


Anyone see the small print for all these vaccine adverts on the TV (such as the shingles vaccine?) this is a relatively safe vaccine, yet they have to put all these disclaimers on the TV, yet the official covid ads gave us no disclaimer and just told us its "safe and effective".
I haven't watched ads for the shingles vaccine, but can imagine a number of reasons whey the advertising might be different. Looking up the relative expected side effects I can see that the shngles vaccine has plenty, and for some symptoms has a higher incidence and/or severity than the Pfizer covid vaccine.

I would have considered the shingles vaccine relatively safe, but obviously not going by what you are saying, this means that the mRNA vaccines must be even worse, we are not being told the whole truth.
I want to be proven wrong, but lets wait a few more years and see what SHTF.


I feel sorry for all the guniea pigs who trusted this. I have a good friend who is suffering and they dont have any treatment for her. What are they supposed to do? There are many similar stories out there, but I know of at least two people personally who regret having the jab and suffer serious health effects.
I don't know where and how you keep getting "stories", but they are just that. Unless they have been investigated and confirmed as being vaccine related you should assume that they are not, because they probably are coincidental.

The majority of these protesters were simply people who lost their jobs due to the mandates.
Those who didn't care enough to just do what is right. Those who didn't have the education or knowledge to critically analyse information. The ignorant and arrogant few who thought they knew more than people who spend decades of learning and commitment to professions and actually know how the human body works.

I couldnt care less what conspiracy theories they believe in or dont believe in, there is sadly a minority who believe in chemtrails or 5G, etc, but at the end of the day they are entitled to their beliefs.
People are entitled to beliefs, but sometimes their beliefs are so outrageous that they are downright embarrassing. Belief is just that - belief in something intangible. It can be respected when actual evidence is short or the concept is esoteric. When it comes to medical science, we use the concept of evidence. Knowledge can change over time as we learn more, but it's not something that lends itself to abstract "belief".

Science is based on observation, lets observe everyone who has had the vaccine over the next decade and take note of any changes vs the unvaxxed people as the control group.


I respect peoples beliefs no matter how nutty they are, its their choice.
I was in a high control cult and I know what its like.
Look at all the division its caused, you really have to ask whether it was worth it?
Only time will tell.
The covid cult is no different, just a bunch of sheep being told its safe and effective, "trust us" "we are the source of truth" exactly the same BS we were told in the JW cult, all critical thinking goes out the door, do your own research, look at both sides of the argument and dont just listen to the state controlled media.
Make an informed decision from all sources.

The cults of religious-type belief are the example of how people get sucked in. People understanding and trusting science are not being sucked in to any cult. It is the CTs who are the cult, who believe the "stories" and seek out disinformation to justify a stance that is contrary to actual evidence, knowledge and common sense. Informed decision making comes from understanding reality, not pushing it aside in favour of something that simply doesn't make sense.

Being told to trust a single source of information should raise alarm bells, we are all in a cult, you just dont know it. The soviets did it, China does it, just because we have much more freedom than such examples, it should be a reminder that no one is immune from such control.
Movies such as the matrix and 1984 send a message to humanity.
George Orwell was ahead of his time.

(04-03-2023, 11:18 AM)Serf407 Wrote: It will be interesting to revisit this thread in 5 years time, to see what in hindsight is correct or changed etc.
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