Jacinda Ardern's face on loo set - Rotary apology

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"The general feeling" is meaningless, aka facts don't care about your feelings.  Just because people "reckon" she'd have treated more kindly if she was a man doesn't make it so.  It is impossible to prove, but do you genuinely believe that people wouldn't have hated/despised Hipkins/Little/Robertson/Mallard as much as they did Ardern had any of them been prime minister over the same period and done/said all the same things she did?

And your dismissal of the Trump comparison just shows your bias.  Essentially you're saying Ardern didn't deserve it, so the hatred directed at her must have been due to misogyny, whereas Trump did deserve it so the hatred directed at him was valid.

The general feeling "as I see it" is not meaningless.  It is my interpretation of what I see and hear.  Speaking of facts in this matter is probably more so meaningless because it is always a matter of one's own perceptions. Hence "as I see it"...

and no, not saying anything about whether Trump deserved the 'hatred' directed at him - only that he is bat shit crazy, Adern is not.  I did not speculate at all about whether he deserved what he got or not -  but I am having a quiet laugh at the Trump is a victim thing, so thanks for that...