09-07-2023, 07:14 PM
(09-07-2023, 03:54 PM)Lilith7 Wrote: Anything to get votes. "They'll be held accountable " has such a lovely ring to it & sounds like they really mean business & have every intention of ending, or at the very least drastically reducing crime.
They haven't. They won't & know they can't, end crime because human nature means it will in some way always be with us.
They could of course, manage to reduce it but that's of no use to them since their followers want ever harsher penalties & either don't know or (possibly more likely) don't care whether or it it works as long as someone is punished, preferably harshly.
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Crime is far too useful to ACT & also National, it garners them votes whenever there's even a slight rise in crime & an election not too far away. They gain votes from the ignorant & or vindictive which they can then claim they'll reduce, punish those responsible etc. etc.
Not a chance in hell they'd actually do anything which could stand a chance of working; they need crime. And obviously don't mind the risk of creating lifelong criminals by using methods they know to be virtually useless.
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/...426fb&ei=7
"If young people under the age of 18 are sent to prison, they will be within a youth unit (or a segregated adult unit if a youth unit is not available), rather than housed within the general prison population."Seymour said 17-year-olds were old enough to face adult justice."It’s an age when young people should understand that consequences come from breaking the law and that they will be held accountable for doing so.""By placing these young men into the adult justice system where they belong, ACT will remove a burden from Oranga Tamariki which will help them focus on their core role. It will also ensure that 17-year-old youth offenders can be kept somewhere secure, where they can no longer harm others, and where they can get the appropriate rehabilitation."
Willful ignorance - even David Seymour surely knows that the human brain isn't fully functioning until the mid 20s. so very clearly a 17 year old is incapable of fully comprehending the consequences of their actions & should NOT be seen as 'old enough to face adult justice.'
And I'm reasonably sure that putting young teens in the same prison as adult, even within a segregated unit, has failed when tried in the past.
Unscrupulous, cynical politicians will grasp at anything at all if they think its going to gain votes for their party; the consequences of their actions appear not to worry them.
Much like some of those who commit crimes...
So at 17 shouldn't be considered developed enough to be an adult- but presently being considered to allow 16 year olds to vote.....