13-07-2023, 12:05 PM
(13-07-2023, 10:38 AM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote:(13-07-2023, 12:06 AM)dken31 Wrote: Do any of you see the irony in wishing that immigrants of a specific ethnicity would "go back where they came from" while implying that it is they that are racist?
Yes, I do. I also acknowledge my own racism in posting the first challenging comment, while understanding that racism is an acquired attitude. In my case acquired from living for some years in Brown's Bay as the suburb was slowly transformed into an enclave of wealthy white South African imports who brought with them their own acquired attitudes and habits. It was an interesting time.
So you're saying that your racisim is justified because you've seen firsthand that lots of white South Africans are a certain undesirable way so it is fair to generalise that they're essentially all that way. However, have you ever thought that perhaps white South Africans think the way they do about others because they've lived amongst those others and have seen their "acquired attitudes and habits"? Because, lets face it, South Africa has turned into an absolute basket case in recent years and it is pretty obvious what white South Africans were trying to guard themselves from and very clear that the new system isn't working.
I will qualify all of that with two very important points:
1. Your implying the classic racist "they should go back where they came from" isn't remotely comparable to Apartheid, other than that they're both racist. Your racism is the very thin edge of the wedge whereas Apartheid is a wedge 1,000km wide, however even the thin end is a bad start.
2. My comment re. the new system in South Africa not working isn't an argument for reverting back to the old system. However, I do think it shows that the antidote to one form of racism is never the reverse of that racism (or racism of any sort). Mandela could bang on all he liked about "Rainbow Nation" and peace & forgiveness, however the system he set up has proved to still be incredibly racist.