02-09-2023, 06:50 PM
(This post was last modified: 02-09-2023, 06:59 PM by Oh_hunnihunni.)
It would be a lot better to set a payout limit and make it universal, the same way other benefits are constructed. This is discriminatory, and as it is illegal to use age to do that they are challenging the spirit of the human rights act if not the actuality.
Fortunately the WINZ grant isn't so ageist.
Yet.
I had orthodontic work done as a child in the 50s, and my parents paid for every bit of it. My Mum got a second job to pay the bills.
One of the reasons I value every minute of our enlightened welfare system as it exists today.
If you are paying a mortgage you are one of the privileged classes. Many people today are growing up knowing they will never be able to do that, and many others are forced to accept that they cannot continue to be homeowners and survive, and sell up and get out of property.
The system is seriously broken, it isn't about people WHO sit on their bums all day, it is about the way we value all the wrong things and fail to realise just how precarious our existence is...
Fortunately the WINZ grant isn't so ageist.
Yet.
(02-09-2023, 05:06 PM)Zurdo Wrote: In primary school I had a bunch of teeth ripped out and had braces - I don't think my parents paid for this...at least they never said anything. Then 30 years later I spent a couple of thousand dollars on my teeth, and a top plate. Now I have 3 teeth left in my mouth - no it's not a good look, and no way can I now afford a bottom plate...and never will. So, yes, this plan is no good to me. I don't care.
My kids inherited my bad teeth, and have no free dental care. My granddaughter needs teeth removed and braces...and worse, she needs jaw surgery. My daughter is saving all her money for the orthodontics (forget about her own teeth) BUT - there is a charity that gives one free dental jaw surgery per year - and she has it !!! In three years after the braces.
I'm all for State Dental - but there has to be a cut off point...and it works both ways. I have industrial hearing loss, and get free hearing aids and batteries from ACC. Young people can't get help with hearing aids, it's only for old people who knew no better in their youth.
I had orthodontic work done as a child in the 50s, and my parents paid for every bit of it. My Mum got a second job to pay the bills.
One of the reasons I value every minute of our enlightened welfare system as it exists today.
(02-09-2023, 04:24 PM)TinkandTiff Wrote: Thanks for NOTHING Labour.
Their lastest bribe is to provide free dental care for those under the age of 30 if they win the upcoming election - to be implemented in stages.
So, my husband and I can not afford to go to the Dentist and both desperately need to.
Have worked and paid taxes all our lives and are still working and paying taxes, whilst trying unsuccessfully to save for our retirement, pay our mortgage and the rising cost of living.
:No such thing as free Dr's visits for children when our kids were little - so we missed out on that, and had to pay. And then again at the chemist, and it was a damn sight more expensive than the now defunct $5 per item in those days too.
: No Working for Families or family benefit
: We paid $500 a year to send our kids to our local Primary School - State school, plus stationary costs etc
: There was no help available for our Dyslexic child - we had to pay, pay , pay for private tutors all her school life.
And now we will miss out on dental care.
Kinda irks me that there are people that sit at home on their ass all day that will get this for nothing in the future, if Labour win. Providing, of course they stick to their promise.
If you are paying a mortgage you are one of the privileged classes. Many people today are growing up knowing they will never be able to do that, and many others are forced to accept that they cannot continue to be homeowners and survive, and sell up and get out of property.
The system is seriously broken, it isn't about people WHO sit on their bums all day, it is about the way we value all the wrong things and fail to realise just how precarious our existence is...