07-09-2023, 07:21 PM
(07-09-2023, 04:17 PM)dken31 Wrote:(07-09-2023, 04:02 PM)Praktica Wrote: I don't think you realise how serious things are - we have a choice. Try and have a controlled landing, or do nothing and crash and burn. You also have erected that straw man "ban all farming", which suggest you are not prepared to face the reality of the situation.
I don't think you really comprehended what I wrote.
Firstly, my comment you replied to was talking about an "if its hoax, are mitigation efforts still a net benefit" situation. I didn't raise that scenario, I was merely replying to it being raised by someone else. Earlier though, I haven't ever advocated for doing nothing, but I've strongly advocated for putting our efforts into adaptation and coping with the change, rather than trying to prevent the change. Humans are great at adaptation and survival, whereas thinking we can control the global climate is just King Cnut level stupidity/arrogance.
As for my ban all farming example, the post I was replying to stated that anything we did towards fighting climate change would be a net benefit, even if the whole thing was a hoax. I used the extreme "ban all farming" to provide a very straight forward example of something we could do to fight climate change that would quite clearly not be of net benefit, thereby clearly disproving the assertion that "anything we do is a step in the right direction". I wasn't suggesting anyone seriously thinks we should ban all farming, and it wasn't an argument for doing nothing instead.
The only people I've come across who claim that anyone wants to 'ban all farming' are oddly enough those who like to claim that climate change is nonsense & that we should do little or nothing about it.
Doing nothing doesn't really seem to be an option in view of the wild fires during the northern hemisphere summer recently, & I suspect that eventually those still pushing the do nothing barrow might have to change their views if things worsen.
in order to be old & wise, you must first be young & stupid. (I'm still working on that.)