(14-09-2023, 11:55 AM)Lilith7 Wrote:(13-09-2023, 07:43 PM)Olive Wrote: Yes, yes yes! Thank you Lilith for spelling it out yet again.
I do wish that I didn't have to but it seems that some are still unaware of what the consequences have been for those now worst off.
And if we have a right wing govt after the eelction, then that doesn't give much hope for improvement in the near future.
Just as some are still unaware that how much resource a person has has no bearing on their ethics, morals or social conscience. There are greedy and lazy poor just as there are greedy and lazy wealthy. But the good done by rich philanthropists is such a valuable part of our society that if they were all deprived of their wealth, we would all suffer greatly. And even their profit-making activities are often considered essential. How many people stop to think how much having a cheap computer has enhanced our lives? How many people watch movies? Fly to places you could drive to, or just stay home instead? Eat takeaways? The want v need aspect of some of those things is debatable, but there would be very few people who don't do any of those and our ability to do them cheaply is because others got rich by taking the risks involved in the startups.
(13-09-2023, 07:01 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: I particularly enjoyed the 'you've had six years' to come up with more doctors quip from Luxon.
Considering if the last Nat government had done anything about it the students they got into medical school would be graduating and practicing right now. We wouldn't need to come up with more...
Though it might be true most of those Nat ones would be working overseas in one of those countries enduring the same health crises we are.
(13-09-2023, 04:03 PM)Praktica Wrote: That makes it ok, does it?
I am glad I had a 50s 60s childhood. I think I was a whole lot happier and less stressed than the kids are today for all their advantages, tech, and progressive opportunities. Sure we had disadvantages, it was a different community back then. But we had good schools, healthy food, a lot fewer people, less crime, and roast lamb on Sundays.
Yup, we boomers were a lucky generation.
Ah, the 60s. When we only had a rainwater tank and when that ran out in summer we had none. Bullied and ostracised at school for wearing inappropriate hand-me-downs and/or simple garments that were clearly home made when the other kids had witches britches. The only treats were at Christmas and included things re-made from the local dump which never really worked. Parents did their best but the hardship was insurmountable for a number of years. The best thing they did give us though was an ethic to work hard to do our best to take care of ourselves, and to give something back to society along the way. Both of which I have done all my life.