(27-10-2023, 10:27 AM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: ACT want to redefine the principles... Bunch of white wealthy middle class men in suits want things their way? So, they make big donations to a malleable political party with conservative roots and hey presto!
More of the old same same stuff...
Precisely why there's extremely good reason to be very, very wary of this. The men in suits seldom want anything which is good for anyone other than themselves.

I can't say I've ever heard the term 'wallow in poverty' before...
in order to be old & wise, you must first be young & stupid. (I'm still working on that.)