(16-11-2023, 08:26 AM)Kenj Wrote: Most of the Christians I have met, tend to have a warped view of reality? The genuine Christians are beautiful people! My Mum was one of those. Said she didn't need a big flash church to worship God. He was all around and an open paddock was a closer place to God than any church. On the other hand, her sister, a ministers wife was a narrow minded, mealy mouth bi*ch.
Just my experience over my long number of years.
Its odd, isn't it, that those who seem to us genuinely spiritual people are more often than not people who don't bother with organised religion, at least in western countries. And who feel some kind of contact with something larger than humans in nature.

(16-11-2023, 09:27 AM)zqwerty Wrote: Mike Johnson: ‘Depraved’ America Deserves God’s Wrath
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/po...234879233/
Interesting - & ever so convenient for them - that Christians (& of course, other Abrahamic religions too) can always find some other group whose fault everything is & who are sure to bring down 'divine retribution' on everyone else including, naturally those upright, virtuous & entirely innocent Christians...

"The segment was filmed Oct. 3, just weeks before Johnson’s unexpected rise to become speaker of the House. Garlow pressed the clean-cut Louisiana congressman to say “more about this ‘time of judgment’ for America.” Johnson replied: “The culture is so dark and depraved that it almost seems irredeemable.” He cited, as supposed evidence, the decline of national church attendance and the rise of LGBTQ youth — the fact, Johnson lamented, that “one-in-four high school students identifies as something other than straight.”
Discussing the risk of divine retribution, Johnson invoked Sodom, the Old Testament city destroyed by God for its wickedness with a rain of burning sulfur. Johnson is a polished orator, but in a closing prayer with Garlow he grew tearful. Johnson intoned, “We repent for our sins individually and collectively. And we ask that You not give us the judgment that we clearly deserve.”
in order to be old & wise, you must first be young & stupid. (I'm still working on that.)