Texas woman granted, then denied abortion on medical grounds

[Lilith7]

I had a niece with trisomy 18.  When it was diagnosed in-utero, my brother & his wife weren't pressured, as such, to kill their daughter but rather it was just assumed by all the medical staff that they'd want to with surprise being the reaction when they said they didn't want to. 

My niece sadly only lived for about a year after birth, however she was a beautiful person who brought love and joy (along with the sadness) to her family.

Once you start down the route of killing people that are "defective" (and society is sadly quite a fair way down that road), how do you decide what defects justify killing for? 

And don't try the "clump of cells" weasel words argument; at 20 weeks, a fetus is undeniably a human person.  Down Syndrome, which ordinarily confers a death sentence these days is usually picked up at the 12 week ultrasound via measurement of fluid at the back of the baby's head, i.e. it has a clear human form at that stage.  Describing it "just a clump of cells" is only as accurate as describing any of us as such.  Killing a 10 week old fetus with Down Syndrome (or Trisomy 18, or any other "defect") is as morally justifiable as killing the same person 10 weeks post-birth or even at 10 years old.

If someone does NOT want an abortion then they shoudn't (& won't be) pressured to have an abortion.
If someone wants an abortion then they shouldn't be pressured to NOT have an abortion; sadly some want to have the right to dictate to women what they can & can't do with their bodies.

There would be massive protests & perhaps rioting in the streets, if women were to attempt to assert similar control over what men may or may not do with their bodies.

And once again, 'people' are not 'being killed' but that ludicrous idea is constantly psuhed by right to birthers. The nonsensical idea that the clump of cells removed in most abortions is in fact the equivalent of a  fully developed, fully functioning human is trotted out at every opportunity.

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If an embryo can survive outside the womb, then and only then can it be considered a person. Prior to that it is a parasite in the any real sense of the word.

Why is it we can deal to the offspring of other creatures, but not our own? Considering we are one of the most populous species on the planet it seems a little ludicrous to assume anyone outside those immediately responsible for the pregnancy should have any say whatsoever in its outcome.

Talk about species entitlement...

Those of the right to birther variety tend to get upset at the parasite reproducing thing, but that is the way in which humans reproduce.
And yes, those responsible for the pregnancy are the only people concerned except perhaps in cases where there's some degree of mental inability; its not anyone else's business.


I think that, if women for some reason attempted to gain control over what men can or can't do with their bodies, all hell would break loose around the entire world. And rightly so.