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James Shaw resigns
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(05-02-2024, 11:17 AM)dken31 Wrote: When people use "Nordic countries" as proof that high taxes / socialism is the answer to NZ's struggles, they generally overlook two extremely important factors: 1. Nordic countries are rich in natural resources (which they're happy to extract) and 2. they're (comparatively) extremely ethnically homogeneous. 

Despite the repeated parroting over the past 20+ years of "our diversity is our strength", every single serious study on the matter proves the exact opposite.  As a society gets more diverse, social trust, community and political engagement, the willingness of people to donate their time or money to community causes all suffers.  The division and "tribalism" gets worse if resources get more scarce.

So, whereas overseas fans of the Nordic model like to suggest that they're all happy and prosperous because they have high taxes and generous social services, it is actually the other way around.  I.e. They're happy to accept the high taxes and are willing to fund generous social services because they happy and prosperous (and feel a far stronger connection to the people that their high taxes are helping to support).

I think most of us understand that Nordic countries have resources we haven't got & that if we are to follow their example, it would only be as far as is possible for this country. And theirs is a mix of socilaism  & capitalism.
But even that would be an improvement on the present situation.
in order to be old & wise, you must first be young & stupid. (I'm still working on that.)


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James Shaw resigns - by Lilith7 - 30-01-2024, 11:52 AM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Lilith7 - 30-01-2024, 02:42 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Wainuiguy - 30-01-2024, 05:00 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by harm_less - 30-01-2024, 06:57 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Lilith7 - 30-01-2024, 06:16 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Wainuiguy - 30-01-2024, 06:34 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Oh_hunnihunni - 31-01-2024, 09:51 AM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Lilith7 - 31-01-2024, 02:14 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Lilith7 - 01-02-2024, 02:46 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Wainuiguy - 01-02-2024, 08:46 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Lilith7 - 02-02-2024, 10:34 AM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Wainuiguy - 02-02-2024, 11:43 AM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by harm_less - 02-02-2024, 12:27 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Lilith7 - 02-02-2024, 02:37 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Oh_hunnihunni - 02-02-2024, 11:47 AM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Wainuiguy - 02-02-2024, 03:36 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by harm_less - 02-02-2024, 05:00 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Wainuiguy - 02-02-2024, 05:13 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by harm_less - 02-02-2024, 05:40 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Wainuiguy - 02-02-2024, 07:03 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Lilith7 - 02-02-2024, 06:24 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Oh_hunnihunni - 02-02-2024, 06:29 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by C_T_Russell - 02-02-2024, 09:37 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by harm_less - 03-02-2024, 09:07 AM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by C_T_Russell - 04-02-2024, 08:13 AM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by harm_less - 04-02-2024, 08:30 AM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by C_T_Russell - 04-02-2024, 08:49 AM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by harm_less - 04-02-2024, 05:22 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Lilith7 - 04-02-2024, 06:09 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Lilith7 - 04-02-2024, 11:12 AM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Oh_hunnihunni - 03-02-2024, 09:25 AM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Lilith7 - 03-02-2024, 10:30 AM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Oh_hunnihunni - 04-02-2024, 08:13 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Lilith7 - 05-02-2024, 10:35 AM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by dken31 - 05-02-2024, 11:17 AM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Lilith7 - 05-02-2024, 02:36 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Oh_hunnihunni - 05-02-2024, 04:49 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by zqwerty - 05-02-2024, 02:16 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by C_T_Russell - 06-02-2024, 12:04 AM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by king1 - 06-02-2024, 11:57 AM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Oh_hunnihunni - 06-02-2024, 09:34 AM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Lilith7 - 06-02-2024, 11:36 AM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by C_T_Russell - 06-02-2024, 10:00 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by king1 - 07-02-2024, 07:40 AM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Oh_hunnihunni - 06-02-2024, 11:38 AM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Oh_hunnihunni - 06-02-2024, 12:15 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Lilith7 - 06-02-2024, 02:44 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Oh_hunnihunni - 07-02-2024, 08:03 AM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by C_T_Russell - 08-02-2024, 03:11 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Lilith7 - 08-02-2024, 03:50 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Praktica - 08-02-2024, 04:14 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by king1 - 08-02-2024, 05:20 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by zqwerty - 07-02-2024, 08:45 AM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Lilith7 - 07-02-2024, 11:41 AM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by zqwerty - 07-02-2024, 01:05 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Oh_hunnihunni - 08-02-2024, 06:06 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Lilith7 - 08-02-2024, 06:15 PM

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