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James Shaw resigns
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(04-02-2024, 05:22 PM)harm_less Wrote: Having listened to that interview I can't see too much wrong with the ideas that Chloe was suggesting. A more even distribution in this country's wealth is not "ridiculous garbage", it is creation of a society that is fair to more of us than presently.

Your suggesting that the Greens are dangerous and anyone who considers voting for them is mentally unwell says more about your state of mind than that of Green voters. And there is definitely ignorance at play but not where you're suggesting it is.
The ideology of wealth distribution, I.e taking from the rich and giving to the poor is what we see in communist countries if you study history.
Take a look at Marxism and then what the WEF are proposing.
Long term, it's failed, and the so called elite in these situations always live it up at the expense of those at the bottom, don't for one minute think that you will own nothing and be happy, you will be at the mercy of the state, dependent on them.
Don't complain if insects are all you get on your dinner plate.

How do they fund this proposed universal basic income?
Wealth tax? Do you think its fair that some retired pensioner in Auckland should have to pay that just because their property is worth millions decades after purchasing it?
Or how about a couple paying off a huge mortgage who would also have to pay this?
Doesn't seem sustainable and Dave seymour was saying that the greens response was to just get a reverse mortgage. What a joke, like its not hard enough for these ones to pay their rates among other bills.
What's your definition of wealth? Huge difference between multibillion dollar corporations and those who own a property.

(04-02-2024, 08:13 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: You know ct, if the world 'reset' as you call it, and gave up war mongering, and the pursuit of excessive personal wealth, we could raise every human being up to a standard of living some of us take for granted, and millions of us dream of. Add to that universal education, universal healthcare, and the advances humanity would makeĀ  and the reset seems logical, not something to be feared.

As for communism, what do you actually know about communism? And do you fear the ideology? The political structure? Or what several megalomaniacs have done to and exploited those in order to raise themselves over the people the system is designed to support? The ideas are not something to be feared, what some monstrous human beings have done with them, well, that's another matter.

Btw, I have made it clear here I am a Green voter and a long term Chloe supporter. I really object to your attempts to gaslight me and those like me with your statements about our mental health. Frankly, I'll happily put my mind, my education, (versus your ignorance), my life experience, and my understanding of human beings up against yours any day. Just name the date...

Well im sorry if you took that the wrong way, I didn't suggest you are mentally unwell at all.
I will give you the benefit of the doubt and accept you are one of the countless ones who is not fully informed on their ridiculous policies.
Do you know the greens want to get rid of prisons and let the criminals out?
No sane person would vote for a party that promotes that, even I didn't realize that was one of their policies until fairly recently.
You should be running a mile after learning this.
It's clear the left are soft on crime, we have seen evidence with the ram raids and one of their own MPs shoplifting and look what's going on in the US right now, criminals flooding the border.
I can't believe how brainwashed people are to sit by and let this happen.
I'm all for a global reset, but nothing close to what the greens or the WEF are proposing.
You will still be controlled by mega multibillion dollars corporations who will have more control over your lives because they will be the ones funding the shitshow it will become.
The WEF is pure evil and anyone who is aligned closely to them is in the same boat.
We need a grassroots movement from the bottom up, not from the top down.
More autonomy is needed on a local level, and on a global scale, these huge corporations that run the show need to die off. They know their days are numbered and I suspect they are throwing everything at it to stay in power.
Unapologetic NZ first voter, white cis male, climate change skeptic.
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James Shaw resigns - by Lilith7 - 30-01-2024, 11:52 AM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Lilith7 - 30-01-2024, 02:42 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Wainuiguy - 30-01-2024, 05:00 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by harm_less - 30-01-2024, 06:57 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Lilith7 - 30-01-2024, 06:16 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Wainuiguy - 30-01-2024, 06:34 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Oh_hunnihunni - 31-01-2024, 09:51 AM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Lilith7 - 31-01-2024, 02:14 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Lilith7 - 01-02-2024, 02:46 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Wainuiguy - 01-02-2024, 08:46 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Lilith7 - 02-02-2024, 10:34 AM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Wainuiguy - 02-02-2024, 11:43 AM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by harm_less - 02-02-2024, 12:27 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Lilith7 - 02-02-2024, 02:37 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Oh_hunnihunni - 02-02-2024, 11:47 AM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Wainuiguy - 02-02-2024, 03:36 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by harm_less - 02-02-2024, 05:00 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Wainuiguy - 02-02-2024, 05:13 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by harm_less - 02-02-2024, 05:40 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Wainuiguy - 02-02-2024, 07:03 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Lilith7 - 02-02-2024, 06:24 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Oh_hunnihunni - 02-02-2024, 06:29 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by C_T_Russell - 02-02-2024, 09:37 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by harm_less - 03-02-2024, 09:07 AM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by C_T_Russell - 04-02-2024, 08:13 AM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by harm_less - 04-02-2024, 08:30 AM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by C_T_Russell - 04-02-2024, 08:49 AM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by harm_less - 04-02-2024, 05:22 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Lilith7 - 04-02-2024, 06:09 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Lilith7 - 04-02-2024, 11:12 AM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Oh_hunnihunni - 03-02-2024, 09:25 AM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Lilith7 - 03-02-2024, 10:30 AM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Oh_hunnihunni - 04-02-2024, 08:13 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Lilith7 - 05-02-2024, 10:35 AM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by dken31 - 05-02-2024, 11:17 AM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Lilith7 - 05-02-2024, 02:36 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Oh_hunnihunni - 05-02-2024, 04:49 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by zqwerty - 05-02-2024, 02:16 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by C_T_Russell - 06-02-2024, 12:04 AM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by king1 - 06-02-2024, 11:57 AM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Oh_hunnihunni - 06-02-2024, 09:34 AM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Lilith7 - 06-02-2024, 11:36 AM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by C_T_Russell - 06-02-2024, 10:00 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by king1 - 07-02-2024, 07:40 AM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Oh_hunnihunni - 06-02-2024, 11:38 AM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Oh_hunnihunni - 06-02-2024, 12:15 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Lilith7 - 06-02-2024, 02:44 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Oh_hunnihunni - 07-02-2024, 08:03 AM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by C_T_Russell - 08-02-2024, 03:11 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Lilith7 - 08-02-2024, 03:50 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Praktica - 08-02-2024, 04:14 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by king1 - 08-02-2024, 05:20 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by zqwerty - 07-02-2024, 08:45 AM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Lilith7 - 07-02-2024, 11:41 AM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by zqwerty - 07-02-2024, 01:05 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Oh_hunnihunni - 08-02-2024, 06:06 PM
RE: James Shaw resigns - by Lilith7 - 08-02-2024, 06:15 PM

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