(07-07-2025, 05:21 AM)heisenberg Wrote:(06-07-2025, 05:12 PM)Lilith7 Wrote: Heaven fofend a right winger should open their eyes & take a look at what's happening, comprehend that wages now are often insufficient to meet basic needs....but no, its always far easier to make a scapegoat group to point at.
wages have never been higher, what you lot seem to forget is add costs to businesses and prices go up and staff get the chop...more unemployment ..add costs to landlords and rents go up...more homelessness
increase the minimum wage and remove tax deductions ...you are all for that but it has consequence’s
But didn't you just say this:
" There’s plenty of homeless that choose to live like that, in a country where you can get benefits and plenty of organisation's falling over themselves to help, taxpayers feeding the children at school etc.
no excuses."
Which does give every indication that you prefer to blame those this situation affects most severely, rather than govt...
Neo Liberalism also has consequences.
This very obviously deeply Neo Liberal govt is not even slightly interested in the well being of its people & keen to if they can, make things even more difficult for them - which so far, they're doing a pretty good job of.
As long as they & their cronies can continue to get even wealthier they don't mind at all.

People desperately trying to survive tend not to have lots of energy for much else.
That is until a certain point is reached when they will eventually rebel. Perhaps when the first child dies of starvation, perhaps when the first person dies for want of now unaffordable medical help, or when that camp of homeless people becomes too big, sooner or later, that point tends to come.
Just ask the Russioan. Or the French.
(07-07-2025, 09:36 AM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Yes, average wage has gone up. But it hasn't kept pace with the cost of living, with rents, with energy costs, and with groceries.
If you then put the burden of health costs or addiction on top of that then the situation can become dire. And the fact is most homeless are not there by choice but by disease, physical, mental, or addiction.
Or, because of the abuse of others, domestic, familial, or social...
I don't think increasing wages or removing tax deductions is the answer. I think equity is. Equal access to housing, healthcare, education, and most of all support networks. As the population increases so do the problems. We need a city mission in every community...
Indeed we do - basic fairness & equality isn't a lot to ask.
It was NOT always like this & it DOES NOT HAVE to be like this.

in order to be old & wise, you must first be young & stupid. (I'm still working on that.)