(Yesterday, 03:44 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote:(Yesterday, 01:01 PM)heisenberg Wrote: ah yes the old millions to landlords
you either treat rental houses as a business or you dont
Businesses pay tax and can deduct expenses like interest etc
defence spending why bother a few airliners full of troops would take over the country in a day
didnt nurses and teachers strike when comrade ardern was in dictatorship ?
one term government ..well lets see
As a business for sure. Not a licence to print money heisenberg. No good business kills its own market with repeated price rises.
Most landlords are not business people.
Sorry, I was wrong. About the millions to landlords thing.
It was billions in tax cuts.
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Well hell. If that isn't greed, then its an exceedingly fine imitation of precisely that.

These are people who don't mind in the least if their wealth comes from deliberating causing pain & suffering to others.
Surely they have to be a ONE term govt.

(10 hours ago)heisenberg Wrote:(Yesterday, 03:05 PM)Lilith7 Wrote: Some of us are just a bit odd like that, we don't much like greed.
like those teachers, doctors and nurses eh
greedy bastards wanting more filthy money
i wonder how many teachers doctors and nurses own rental properties ...should they get a pay rise as well?
How dare teachers, doctore & nurses expect a living wage...
Tell ya what Heisenberg, how about we do a wee swap - how about we give our nurses,drs, & teachers the pay we give our politicians & give the politicians the nurses wages - they like to claim how wonderfully skilled they are at budgeting, seems only fair to give them all the chance to prove that,eh.
And I'm sure we'd all be just thrilled to see them demonstrate their skills...


(7 hours ago)Agent_24 Wrote:(8 hours ago)heisenberg Wrote: they are going anyway just like they did under labour
you all want people paid more, wheres the money coming from
tell me how many rich pricks arnt paying their share
National could have used the tax from tobacco companies, if they hadn't cut it back by $216 million!
Yeah, funny that. But then, they have to keep their 'donors' happy...

(5 hours ago)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote:(Yesterday, 09:26 PM)Alice Wrote: How many of your spare homes do you rent for charity ? Landlords will simply invest in other earners should the government force homeowners to finance social housing . Dont we already finance social welfare ? Where does it end ? Universal income lol? Yeah .....nah ...
Why not a Universal Income? We will have to do something if the predicted machine intelligence era comes to pass, some say in less that five years. A UBI has and is being trialled in other countries right now and it might surprise you to know the results seem to indicate very few downsides to putting it in place. It even seems to boost economies without too many other changes.
I know it is hard to put ourselves in other people's shoes, but in my experience that gets a lot easier as we age, and actually get clobbered by a few real life events. So long as we don't fall into the 'why me' victimhood trap that is and start looking for someone else to blame
And the reality is we do not need billionaires. We need doctors and teachers and nurses and plumbers and electricians. Wealth doesn't bring happiness, it actually breaks and destroys. Musk and Trump et al are perfect examples. Money isn't the key to happiness, people are...
(5 hours ago)heisenberg Wrote: 500 million was peanuts compared to the billions needed for the on shore work because labour signed up for the wrong boats
In whose opinion?
Yes, but a universal income might mean those who are well off lose lots of dosh...& never mind the inconvenient fact that it seems to work well.
The world is a weird place. And humans are crazy...

in order to be old & wise, you must first be young & stupid. (I'm still working on that.)