11-03-2022, 01:38 AM
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11-03-2022, 05:48 AM
Eye on the golf ball or the one revolving round the Sun? As I said - perspective.
We don't know how lucky we are, boys, we don't know how lucky...
we dont know how propitious are the circumstances, Fredrick
i think i have perspective, insofar as none of this really effects me, its other people i see struggling that bother me. my luck is my own, for others it has not been so you shouldnt have two working parents and still not make ends meet. this reminds me of something. indentured servitude. whether you are sat in a burned out bus shelter in Kiev or a state house in otara, hungry is hungry.
So if you disappear out of view You know I will never say goodbye
11-03-2022, 06:19 AM
I agree completely. I also understand from my own experience how big an influence sheer luck or coincidence or accident has in our lives. Which is why celebrating our good fortune is always a good idea, because life is an interesting process and changes are always just hours away.
There but for the grace... (11-03-2022, 01:38 AM)kevlights Wrote:Potentially but if it was crisis then it is an apocalypse now.(10-03-2022, 09:35 PM)king1 Wrote: Have to agree, but did it not sound eerily reminiscent of John Key claiming there was no housing crisis... Ardern was caught badly by Luxons comments in a Cost of Living Crisis. She couldn't admit it was or it makes the government look bad but then she went the other direction with denial which made her look out of step. Luxon backed her nicely into the corner.
11-03-2022, 09:17 AM
(11-03-2022, 09:12 AM)Wainuiguy Wrote: Potentially but if it was crisis then it is an apocalypse now.Well I can't disagree, it is never a good look when politicians deny the reality that people are living... Let's hope she learns from this in the remaining time until the next election... This world would be a perfect place if it wasn't for the people.
Sharesies | Buy Crypto | Surfshark VPN | Cloud Backup (11-03-2022, 09:17 AM)king1 Wrote:There is a video of a recent interview of her by Ryan Bridge circulating on social media where he questions her about the cost of living but specifically the amount of tax the government takes from the price of a litre of petrol.(11-03-2022, 09:12 AM)Wainuiguy Wrote: Potentially but if it was crisis then it is an apocalypse now.Well I can't disagree, it is never a good look when politicians deny the reality that people are living... Let's hope she learns from this in the remaining time until the next election... One question was: do you know how much the government takes in tax from a litre of fuel? She didn’t. It was not a great interview for her, full of stutters, stammers umms and aahhs and lots of denial and deflection and the usual blame Covid. A Prime Minister who realises she is in trouble big time.
11-03-2022, 09:42 AM
77 cents a litre if anyones wondering.
i dont think the tax should be geared as a percentage of the cost. the price of gas is too volatile, and the need too great i think it should be a flat rate adjustable as needed. 40 cents a litre would be a start.
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11-03-2022, 09:58 AM
The bigger picture though is if they don't get the revenue from the fuel tax, where does it come from? or more importantly, what services would have to be foregone... Running a country is a zero sum game...
This world would be a perfect place if it wasn't for the people.
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11-03-2022, 10:02 AM
(11-03-2022, 09:58 AM)king1 Wrote: The bigger picture though is if they don't get the revenue from the fuel tax, where does it come from? or more importantly, what services would have to be foregone... Running a country is a zero sum game...were budgets not based on the projected income at the time of budgeting? the extra take is 'found' money, ex budget.
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11-03-2022, 10:07 AM
It is an excise tax.
The proceeds of taxes collected from fuel must only go to roading and transport infrastructure by law.
11-03-2022, 10:08 AM
(11-03-2022, 10:02 AM)Magoo Wrote:same happens to the expense side as well though, unexpected or inflationary cost increases over and above the budget...(11-03-2022, 09:58 AM)king1 Wrote: The bigger picture though is if they don't get the revenue from the fuel tax, where does it come from? or more importantly, what services would have to be foregone... Running a country is a zero sum game...were budgets not based on the projected income at the time of budgeting? This world would be a perfect place if it wasn't for the people.
Sharesies | Buy Crypto | Surfshark VPN | Cloud Backup (11-03-2022, 10:08 AM)king1 Wrote:is that not budgeted for as well?(11-03-2022, 10:02 AM)Magoo Wrote: were budgets not based on the projected income at the time of budgeting?same happens to the expense side as well though, unexpected or inflationary cost increases over and above the budget... so that we dont have to rely on a 'potential' increase in the tax take to cover shortfalls? the money still remains found? makes me think of the california lottery all its proceeds go to education. substantial proceeds. this was supposed to be 'extra', something for schools to have for costs not covered by the fed's or state. it was increasingly used for everything from wages to school buses, and in times of economic hardship (GFC) the first thing to go is the disposable income that lottery tickets are. the lottery take shrivelled and nearly bankrupted the school system. happened during arnies watch i think. (11-03-2022, 10:07 AM)ObeWan Wrote: It is an excise tax.must be a mountain of cash there labour havent started any new roading projects, dragged their feet those already underway (transmission gully) and shelved everything national had shovel ready. where tis?
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11-03-2022, 02:15 PM
(10-03-2022, 05:49 PM)yousnoozeyoulose Wrote: At last, something to make the right-whingers a bit less grumpy. They've been so utterly miserable for so long.Lets not forget though, that polls can be dodgy things. Its slightly disturbing to see the Nat leader being so 'caring' about those on low incomes all of a sudden, given their past history of completely ignoring those people for years & I have to wonder if some newer voters unaware of that may have taken him at his word. But then that's politics, & politicians aren't known for their honesty.
in order to be old & wise, you must first be young & stupid. (I'm still working on that.)
11-03-2022, 02:33 PM
(11-03-2022, 02:15 PM)Lilith7 Wrote:and the public not known for their tolerance.(10-03-2022, 05:49 PM)yousnoozeyoulose Wrote: At last, something to make the right-whingers a bit less grumpy. They've been so utterly miserable for so long.Lets not forget though, that polls can be dodgy things. tis a tangled web we weave...
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11-03-2022, 06:00 PM
(11-03-2022, 02:33 PM)Magoo Wrote:Yep, although the public often puts up with something long past time.(11-03-2022, 02:15 PM)Lilith7 Wrote: Lets not forget though, that polls can be dodgy things.and the public not known for their tolerance.
in order to be old & wise, you must first be young & stupid. (I'm still working on that.)
11-03-2022, 08:25 PM
(10-03-2022, 10:54 PM)Magoo Wrote: good governance involves forethought beyond the next election.When, in the last 30-40 years at least, was it never thus? Autumn comes
11-03-2022, 10:02 PM
yes good point
our forebears undertook civil construction, built some awesome public facilities. as well as hospitals, transportation infrastructure, and cultural honorific artwork/statuary etc. as a genx/boomer generation we havent done squat. weve closed more hospitals than weve built, same with schools. no pyramids us no great cathedrals, no sir parthenon? nope no trevi fountains or sistine chapels here instead we embraced brutalist landscapes of boxes and straight lines measured everything we did by how cheap we could make it a throwaway society without the forethought nor self awareness to make any positive or paradigm shift in the human condition. the culmination of 10 thousand years of collective knowledge and higher learning us. 5he most advanced civilisation in history us turned out to be a bunch of self absorbed slackers who just argued and broke shit a constant source of embarrassment to any creator id wager not to mention the look of abject disappointment on buddahs face weve outshone our ancestors in both hubris and indifferent neglect. im glad i stayed out of it. so much easier than trying to do it straight.
So if you disappear out of view You know I will never say goodbye
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