maori party think that maori are entitled to lower retirement age

[zqwerty]

Bruce Springsteen lyrics to Badlands

You better get it straight darlin’
Poor man wanna be rich
Rich man wanna be king
And a king ain't satisfied
'Til he rules everything

Trump erupts at ‘obnoxious’ Bruce Springsteen with threats and insults after the Boss criticized him at gig in UK: ‘Dried out prune of a rocker

https://nz.news.yahoo.com/trump-erupts-o...47860.html

[Oh_hunnihunni]

There's no good old days it was tough and hard times with shortages of food mostly all over the world with only the rich having a better time but they still had to contend with lots of different diseases without much knowledge or suitable treatments to help out, we are living in golden times soon to be brought to a crunching halt by global warming/climate change, we are grossly over populated overall on Earth.  NZ should do alright in the short term, that's why I'm here.  Same as Thiel really except I'm almost broke.  He's got a nice little hidey hole somewhere around Queenstown I believe, paid $5,000,000 to the Government to get citizenship instantly I believe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Thiel

he will have contributed more to NZ than you ever will

Fascinating essay...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-i...trump-musk

[zqwerty]

Yes Lilith scary scenarios, Efficiency in their book seems to be the faster money moves from the poor to the rich.

FBI Agent goes public with Russian intelligence operation that hooked Musk and Thiel

https://kyivinsider.com/fbi-agent-goes-p...and-theil/?

[Lilith7]

Peter Theil and a dodgy deal... https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/bill...XCR4MLRHU/

Well, y' know.standard Nat practice.

Dodgy deals, done dirt cheap....

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Maori were the fiercest Warriors that the British Empire ever faced followed by the Gurkha then the Zulu, if you did Cambridge School Certificate that's what you would have been taught.  The British never beat the Maori or the Gurkha they had to make treaties to ensure peace.  Treaty of Waitangi, remember?

You are correct there was a shortage of meat in NZ hence using the alternative, long pig.  They also gorged whenever food was on offer because you never knew when your next meal might arrive.  They may indeed have not adjusted to Western ways in 3 or 4 generations so probably do suffer in ways due to old habits, it's not thousands of years, it's barely 200.

Most of the Maori men I have met have been men in the real sense of the word and are still formidable characters deserving of respect, I won't be getting them riled up.

And they were also 50 years ahead of Gandhi at Parihaka with passive resistance...

[C_T_Russell]

Maori were lucky to make it past 40 years of age prior to colonization.

[heisenberg]

Maori were lucky to make it past 40 years of age prior to colonization.

thats conveniently forgotten nowadays

[Oh_hunnihunni]

Which fails to mention his purchase of a large chunk of land with the idea of building one of these gated developments that underpin the idea of creating a privately owned lawless independent nation state for the rich and well off that keeps the riff raff out except to service the noble insiders. Fortunately council permitting and resource management difficulties made sure it wasn't an option. These people are dangerous, and need to be watched closely. I'm not talking about our home grown richlisters, they are pretty tame in comparison, some of these internationals though are well off towards the end of the weirdness spectrum. Their ideas on the end of the world give them wholesale permission to rape and pillage, they are the complete opposite of the most zealous of the Greens, but rarely get a fraction of the attention those woolies attract...

[Praktica]

In the mid 1800s, citizens of most countries were lucky to make it past 40 years of age. Remember, too, that the Maori didn't have the endemic diseases - measles, smallpox, tuberculosis - and the epidemic diseases - cholera, typhoid, plague - which our ancestors lived with.

[king1]

Maori were lucky to make it past 40 years of age prior to colonization.

thats conveniently forgotten nowadays

and also conveniently forgotten, the entire human population was lucky to make it past 40 years of age at that time...

[zqwerty]

So they are now better off because we colonized them rather than them determining their own future?

Ask them how they feel about that. Remember I come from Zambia/Northern Rhodesia which was colonized by Britain made Independent in 1964.

The present day Zambians are so much happier now then thy were under colonial rule. As you would expect for yourself they enjoy determining their own future not being told what to do.

Maori would be the same, so watch out, you guys are on the wrong side of history.

Lucky you have the Treaty of Waitangi, which, I wouldn't go mucking around with that in case they decide to kick you all out LOL.

[heisenberg]

So they are now better off because we colonized them rather than them determining their own future?

Ask them how they feel about that.  Remember I come from Zambia/Northern Rhodesia which was colonized by Britain made Independent in 1964.

The present day Zambians are so much happier now then thy were under colonial rule.  As you would expect for yourself they enjoy determining their own future not being told what to do.

Maori would be the same, so watch out, you guys are on the wrong side of history.

Lucky you have the Treaty of Waitangi, which, I wouldn't go mucking around with that in case they decide to kick you all out LOL.

yea if maori kicked us all out within 10 years the ruling Maori chiefs will have enslaved most of the population and sold nz to the chinese

[Oh_hunnihunni]

So they are now better off because we colonized them rather than them determining their own future?

Ask them how they feel about that.  Remember I come from Zambia/Northern Rhodesia which was colonized by Britain made Independent in 1964.

The present day Zambians are so much happier now then thy were under colonial rule.  As you would expect for yourself they enjoy determining their own future not being told what to do.

Maori would be the same, so watch out, you guys are on the wrong side of history.

Lucky you have the Treaty of Waitangi, which, I wouldn't go mucking around with that in case they decide to kick you all out LOL.

yea if maori kicked us all out within 10 years the ruling Maori chiefs will have enslaved most of the population and sold nz to the chinese

I doubt it. Not the kicking out bit, I'd even support a bit of that. With due process of course. But the selling off? Nope. Wouldn't happen. Might be some interesting population changes though, genetics being what genetics are...

We could do worse than genuinely and respectfully adopt different cultural norms. After all, I don't know anyone who still thinks everything British is good for us.

Especially with Britain as it is today...

[Praktica]

So they are now better off because we colonized them rather than them determining their own future?

Ask them how they feel about that.  Remember I come from Zambia/Northern Rhodesia which was colonized by Britain made Independent in 1964.

The present day Zambians are so much happier now then thy were under colonial rule.  As you would expect for yourself they enjoy determining their own future not being told what to do.

Maori would be the same, so watch out, you guys are on the wrong side of history.

Lucky you have the Treaty of Waitangi, which, I wouldn't go mucking around with that in case they decide to kick you all out LOL.

yea if maori kicked us all out within 10 years the ruling Maori chiefs will have enslaved most of the population and sold nz to the chinese

You would make a good slave - sour, resentful, and satisfying to whack round the ear occasionally...

[heisenberg]

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[Oh_hunnihunni]

This discussion is degenerating into personal attacks, without humour.

I'm out.

[king1]

As I mentioned...

Please focus on the issues everyone, not the people.

[heisenberg]

This discussion is degenerating into personal attacks, without humour.

I'm out.

thats how the left operate

[king1]

This discussion is degenerating into personal attacks, without humour.

I'm out.

thats how the left operate

if by that you mean avoiding conflict rather than inciting it, then most here would agree with you.

[heisenberg]

thats how the left operate

if by that you mean avoiding conflict rather than inciting it, then most here would agree with you.

sure just look at how the left treated posie parker

your admin have a look at how many regular posters you have, looks like a dozen at most, ever wonder why? anyone not a raving leftard gets the cool gang after them

[zqwerty]

This is just a random group of people tending to be in the older age group experienced in life, the last thing they need is a bitter and twisted character who thinks he knows what it's all about. You've got a lot to learn heisenberg.

Bombastic men are always full of themselves but lack credence because they don't listen to anyone around them since a young age they already know it all.