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Invalid Dell service tag?
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(14-06-2025, 11:18 PM)Agent_24 Wrote:
(14-06-2025, 10:45 PM)nzoomed Wrote: Im running Debian 12 on this which has been a while since i last used Debian and its come a long way in that time with many more refinements since I last touched it and switched to kubuntu.
Everything seems to work OK straight out of the box which is good.

I've been thinking of trying it again myself, I last tried Debian quite some time ago and it was a very different experience to Ubuntu, then (before Unity or Gnome 3)

But I'm not at all impressed with Canonical's decision to force Snap on everyone with their recent versions, regardless of whether it's a good system or not, a big reason for me moving to Linux was to get away from that sort of thing, because I was sick of Microsoft forcing changes on me I didn't want either.

(14-06-2025, 10:45 PM)nzoomed Wrote: I will let you know how i get on with this utility, i was only introduced it by a friend this week.
I booted it up and the drive doesnt show at all, but will have a look next week when ive got more time spare.
Your right that its likely a shorted ceramic capacitor, will take some time to find, as there is a number of these. Sometimes they have fusable resistors that are there as a form of protection from voltage spikes.

Seems strange if it shows in Windows though. I wonder what the Linux logfiles say, if there's anything about it.
Haven't personally had to deal with a bad SSD (yet) except for a cheap one I bought that died. It was under warranty and I got a refund, then bought a bigger, better brand one. So I never tried to diagnose it electrically or otherwise.

Yes it appears that the community has shared the same concerns.
I was just watching a video about this here, I never realized how bad it had got.
https://youtu.be/KgPP2FKQp34
Mozilla has faced similar issues with their leadership also.
I think when a for profit company gets involved in an open source project, this is what ultimately leads to problems down the track.

I will see what if anything shows in the logs.
It's the first time I've had to deal with a faulty nvme drive, they are largely reliable, im windows it only briefly shows, and then drops right off and not even any usb device shows as connected, but would give me enough time to view the directory structure.
I've never really bothered doing hardware level repairs to get such a drive working but I will do a little research to see if there is anything I've overlooked.
It's an intel branded drive for the record.
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(15-06-2025, 12:17 PM)nzoomed Wrote: Yes it appears that the community has shared the same concerns.
I was just watching a video about this here, I never realized how bad it had got.
https://youtu.be/KgPP2FKQp34
Mozilla has faced similar issues with their leadership also.

I was able to avoid the other issues by switching to Xubuntu (With XFCE) when Unity and Gnome 3 came out.
But Snap has finally caught up to the whole Ubuntu family, so I won't be upgrading to the latest version when the LTS runs out.

I have tried it, but it's woefully inefficient in terms of disk space, and some programs I tried in Snap format wouldn't even run. Case in point, the RTS game 0AD (Age of Empires style game) in Snap format would not launch, because somehow, it could not find the video card. Why are they rolling out a system with such major bugs?

Still considering my options but Debian or Linux Mint feel like top alternatives, especially when most software seems to maintain packages for at least Debian based distros, although I've heard good things about Arch and the AUR.

(15-06-2025, 12:17 PM)nzoomed Wrote: I will see what if anything shows in the logs.
It's the first time I've had to deal with a faulty nvme drive, they are largely reliable, im windows it only briefly shows, and then drops right off and not even any usb device shows as connected, but would give me enough time to view the directory structure.
I've never really bothered doing hardware level repairs to get such a drive working but I will do a little research to see if there is anything I've overlooked.
It's an intel branded drive for the record.

Hopefully the log might tell you why it drops out, and you can go from there...

They might feel reliable, until they're not. With light use they may last a long time, but everything wears out eventually. Flash memory is not an exception. That's why the warranty is not just based on time anymore, but also number of bytes written (write cycles wear out flash cells).

There will come a point in the future where the SSDs produced now will naturally reach this wear limit, and then they'll all start dropping like flies. Yes, SMART will tell you when the wear value is high but it's only an estimate based on a lab-calculated number.

SMART on a conventional HDD has more parameters it can monitor, which are pretty helpful at predicting actual wear-out issues, but SSDs have very few attributes to physically monitor, so there isn't much it can work with.

As always, backups are the only solution.
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(15-06-2025, 04:04 PM)Agent_24 Wrote: I was able to avoid the other issues by switching to Xubuntu (With XFCE) when Unity and Gnome 3 came out.
But Snap has finally caught up to the whole Ubuntu family, so I won't be upgrading to the latest version when the LTS runs out.

I have tried it, but it's woefully inefficient in terms of disk space, and some programs I tried in Snap format wouldn't even run. Case in point, the RTS game 0AD (Age of Empires style game) in Snap format would not launch, because somehow, it could not find the video card. Why are they rolling out a system with such major bugs?

Still considering my options but Debian or Linux Mint feel like top alternatives, especially when most software seems to maintain packages for at least Debian based distros, although I've heard good things about Arch and the AUR.

That says alot if 0AD does not run through it.
Clearly needs more development and bugs addressed.
Ive noticed that in recent years that Debian development has sped up, with major releases becoming much more frequent, im putting this down to so many popular distros all being based on Debian, and being so stable, i feel like its here to stay.
The way windows is heading, im almost at the point of switching over and just keep windows installed as a second OS just for gaming.

(15-06-2025, 04:04 PM)Agent_24 Wrote: Hopefully the log might tell you why it drops out, and you can go from there...

They might feel reliable, until they're not. With light use they may last a long time, but everything wears out eventually. Flash memory is not an exception. That's why the warranty is not just based on time anymore, but also number of bytes written (write cycles wear out flash cells).

There will come a point in the future where the SSDs produced now will naturally reach this wear limit, and then they'll all start dropping like flies. Yes, SMART will tell you when the wear value is high but it's only an estimate based on a lab-calculated number.

SMART on a conventional HDD has more parameters it can monitor, which are pretty helpful at predicting actual wear-out issues, but SSDs have very few attributes to physically monitor, so there isn't much it can work with.

As always, backups are the only solution.

Ive never encountered any SSD with bad blocks or any significant amount if wear so far, but its entirely possible, just requires heavy use, it shows up worse on systems such as machines running CCTV cameras that keep recording over and over on the same disk.
Ive seen a few SATA disks fail, not because of wear, but simply a hardware fault of its own where the whole drive appears dead, ive had others where I was able to image the drive, but was real slow and had the occasional I/O error appear.
The wear levelling algorithms are pretty good these days and any decent drives like samsung have provisional space set aside that you can adjust yourself, but i just check my SMART readings from time to time, but im more concerned about drive failure over anything, I still keep my important data on a RAID mirror for redundancy with regular hard disks, never played around with this on NVMe drives yet.
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