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Woke attempting to block woman's rights activist entering NZ
(27-03-2023, 06:26 PM)Wainuiguy Wrote:
(27-03-2023, 11:58 AM)king1 Wrote: and who invited her exactly ? 

Try and stop me at your peril I believe were her words to the PM - she got everything she deserved, including the humiliation...

I was under the impression a local women's rights group had invited her to speak.  So I guess based on "she got everything she deserved" line youre OK with violence towards women?  Or violence to stop speech?  Do you also blame girls who are raped for wearing short skirts?  I guess you condone giving a woman a backhander if they get a bit lippy or fail to cook you some eggs?

well I was referring to the tomato juice, and the large counter protest, and the fact she didn't get to say a word, and the police escort to the airport...
Surprising how readily you elevate the level of violence, i'm sure it is meaningful in some way...
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(27-03-2023, 08:06 PM)king1 Wrote:
(27-03-2023, 06:26 PM)Wainuiguy Wrote: I was under the impression a local women's rights group had invited her to speak.  So I guess based on "she got everything she deserved" line youre OK with violence towards women?  Or violence to stop speech?  Do you also blame girls who are raped for wearing short skirts?  I guess you condone giving a woman a backhander if they get a bit lippy or fail to cook you some eggs?

well I was referring to the tomato juice, and the large counter protest, and the fact she didn't get to say a word, and the police escort to the airport... 
Surprising how readily you elevate the level of violence, i'm sure it is meaningful in some way...
So she was assulted and you admit that correct?  In which case you condone the assault to both her and her security team because, as you said, she deserved it.
(27-03-2023, 09:26 PM)Wainuiguy Wrote:
(27-03-2023, 08:06 PM)king1 Wrote: well I was referring to the tomato juice, and the large counter protest, and the fact she didn't get to say a word, and the police escort to the airport... 
Surprising how readily you elevate the level of violence, i'm sure it is meaningful in some way...
So she was assulted and you admit that correct?  In which case you condone the assault to both her and her security team because, as you said, she deserved it.

I have no idea if she was assaulted, the police would be the ones to ask about that.  I'm just glad she didn't get to speak and has left the country.

I also hear someone spilt their tomato juice, a tragedy to be sure...
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(27-03-2023, 09:41 PM)king1 Wrote:
(27-03-2023, 09:26 PM)Wainuiguy Wrote: So she was assulted and you admit that correct?  In which case you condone the assault to both her and her security team because, as you said, she deserved it.

I have no idea if she was assaulted, the police would be the ones to ask about that.  I'm just glad she didn't get to speak and has left the country.

I also hear someone spilt their tomato juice, a tragedy to be sure...

So you dont consider someone dumping tomato juice over someone assault?  Iguess just lucky it wasn't acid.

I see why you and Lilith get on - you both try to justify assaults as "not that bad" .  Even Hipkins today said that violence to silence speech should not be condoned.  Perhaps some here may want to take that on board?
(27-03-2023, 10:58 PM)Wainuiguy Wrote:
(27-03-2023, 09:41 PM)king1 Wrote: I have no idea if she was assaulted, the police would be the ones to ask about that.  I'm just glad she didn't get to speak and has left the country.

I also hear someone spilt their tomato juice, a tragedy to be sure...

So you dont consider someone dumping tomato juice over someone assault?  Iguess just lucky it wasn't acid.

I see why you and Lilith get on - you both try to justify assaults as "not that bad" .  Even Hipkins today said that violence to silence speech should not be condoned.  Perhaps some here may want to take that on board?
 I have no idea if she was assaulted, the police would be the one to ask about that.  Tomato juice was present, is that assault or an accident, I have no idea, I wasn't there and i'm not a lawyer.

But keep up the good work. I'm sure Ms Parker appreciates the support she gets.  By the looks of the turnout she needs every bit she can get
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(27-03-2023, 11:35 PM)king1 Wrote:
(27-03-2023, 10:58 PM)Wainuiguy Wrote: So you dont consider someone dumping tomato juice over someone assault?  Iguess just lucky it wasn't acid.

I see why you and Lilith get on - you both try to justify assaults as "not that bad" .  Even Hipkins today said that violence to silence speech should not be condoned.  Perhaps some here may want to take that on board?
 I have no idea if she was assaulted, the police would be the one to ask about that.  Tomato juice was present, is that assault or an accident, I have no idea, I wasn't there and i'm not a lawyer.

But keep up the good work. I'm sure Ms Parker appreciates the support she gets.  By the looks of the turnout she needs every bit she can get

It wasn't an accident - you know that.  The activist said she did it and that is assault.  Not the the Police will do anything not with cuck Coster in charge.   And I dont particularly support her or her views.  However what was seen that day was terrible.  Those in the rainbow community should be ashamed - they acted like the brownshirts of old, shouting down opposing views and then choosing violence to stop those views.
(28-03-2023, 07:11 AM)Wainuiguy Wrote:
(27-03-2023, 11:35 PM)king1 Wrote:  I have no idea if she was assaulted, the police would be the one to ask about that.  Tomato juice was present, is that assault or an accident, I have no idea, I wasn't there and i'm not a lawyer.

But keep up the good work. I'm sure Ms Parker appreciates the support she gets.  By the looks of the turnout she needs every bit she can get

It wasn't an accident - you know that.  The activist said she did it and that is assault.  Not the the Police will do anything not with cuck Coster in charge.   And I dont particularly support her or her views.  However what was seen that day was terrible.  Those in the rainbow community should be ashamed - they acted like the brownshirts of old, shouting down opposing views and then choosing violence to stop those views.
although to be fair the brownshirts of old were enforcers for a tyrannical dictator whereas the rainbow community are simply defending their recognised human rights from some pommy antagonist with emotional insecurities.
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(28-03-2023, 07:30 AM)king1 Wrote:
(28-03-2023, 07:11 AM)Wainuiguy Wrote: It wasn't an accident - you know that.  The activist said she did it and that is assault.  Not the the Police will do anything not with cuck Coster in charge.   And I dont particularly support her or her views.  However what was seen that day was terrible.  Those in the rainbow community should be ashamed - they acted like the brownshirts of old, shouting down opposing views and then choosing violence to stop those views.
although to be fair the brownshirts of old were enforcers for a tyrannical dictator whereas the rainbow community are simply defending their recognised human rights from some pommy antagonist with emotional insecurities.

They still acted like them.  They were still a violent mob who chose violence over discussion.  Even Hipkins said that violence is never the way to get your point across.
So, tomato juice is assault, but hateful words and opinions are not.

Okaaaaaaay...

(28-03-2023, 07:11 AM)Wainuiguy Wrote:
(27-03-2023, 11:35 PM)king1 Wrote:  I have no idea if she was assaulted, the police would be the one to ask about that.  Tomato juice was present, is that assault or an accident, I have no idea, I wasn't there and i'm not a lawyer.

But keep up the good work. I'm sure Ms Parker appreciates the support she gets.  By the looks of the turnout she needs every bit she can get

It wasn't an accident - you know that.  The activist said she did it and that is assault.  Not the the Police will do anything not with cuck Coster in charge.   And I dont particularly support her or her views.  However what was seen that day was terrible.  Those in the rainbow community should be ashamed - they acted like the brownshirts of old, shouting down opposing views and then choosing violence to stop those views.

Cuck Coster?

Wow.

'cuck
/kʌk/
DEROGATORY•INFORMAL
noun
1.
US
a weak or servile man (often used as a contemptuous term for a man with moderate or progressive political views).
"we act like a bunch of cucks who let them take what they want"
2.
a man whose wife is sexually unfaithful; a cuckold.
verb
make (a man) a cuckold by having a sexual relationship with his wife or by being sexually unfaithful to him.'

For the record, terrible, is denying people their human rights. Like the brownshirts of old, as you say.

Terrible, is assaulting people with derogatory names. Like the brownshirts etc etc etc...
I wonder how many assaults took place at the parliament protests that when unprosecuted... assuming we're enforcing the letter of the law...
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(28-03-2023, 07:43 AM)Wainuiguy Wrote:
(28-03-2023, 07:30 AM)king1 Wrote: although to be fair the brownshirts of old were enforcers for a tyrannical dictator whereas the rainbow community are simply defending their recognised human rights from some pommy antagonist with emotional insecurities.

They still acted like them.  They were still a violent mob who chose violence over discussion.  Even Hipkins said that violence is never the way to get your point across.

so how do we feel about death threats...
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/posie-park...BGZJDPWCU/

are you gonna take the high road and condone it, or fall back on the violence begets violence tripe
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(28-03-2023, 08:19 AM)king1 Wrote:
(28-03-2023, 07:43 AM)Wainuiguy Wrote: They still acted like them.  They were still a violent mob who chose violence over discussion.  Even Hipkins said that violence is never the way to get your point across.

so how do we feel about death threats...
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/posie-park...BGZJDPWCU/

are you gonna take the high road and condone it, or fall back on the violence begets violence tripe

No I don't condone that either.  She deserves to be charged for assault but death threats or threats of any kind of violence are wrong.

Your stance is starting to look a bit silly now isnt it?  Perhaps like Davidson you need to walk back and clarify your earlier comments.
Howabout you do that on the cuck comment?

You know, lead by example...
(28-03-2023, 09:38 AM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Howabout you do that on the cuck comment?

You know, lead by example...

See now youre getting confused between words and violence.  And Coster is the worst Police Commissioner this country has seen.  Under his watch crime has skyrocketed, Police morale is at it lowest point ever and Police are leaving in huge numbers.

So now I have clarified my position - and Coster is most definitely a Cuck.
Which means it is okay for me to call you derogatory names then? Instead of congratulating you on your dancing expertise?

And, I am not confused. Words are tools. And sometimes weapons. It would be delusional to not understand that, especially if being rather self assured when it comes to adroit use of language.
(27-03-2023, 06:33 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Whoa! I bet you were a champion on the dance floor back in the 60s Wainuiguy. The way you twist you have to be a master...

Tongue

Big Grin Big Grin

(27-03-2023, 10:58 PM)Wainuiguy Wrote:
(27-03-2023, 09:41 PM)king1 Wrote: I have no idea if she was assaulted, the police would be the ones to ask about that.  I'm just glad she didn't get to speak and has left the country.

I also hear someone spilt their tomato juice, a tragedy to be sure...

So you dont consider someone dumping tomato juice over someone assault?  Iguess just lucky it wasn't acid.

I see why you and Lilith get on - you both try to justify assaults as "not that bad" .  Even Hipkins today said that violence to silence speech should not be condoned.  Perhaps some here may want to take that on board?

Only in the fevered imaginations of some on the right. 

Who might do well to perhaps take up embroidery since they appear to have a talent for it.... Rolleyes


And probably you've missed the at least two posts now where I've said that imo she should have been allowed to speak so that we can all understand exactly what her views are, however abhorrent.
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(28-03-2023, 10:34 AM)Lilith7 Wrote:
(27-03-2023, 06:33 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Whoa! I bet you were a champion on the dance floor back in the 60s Wainuiguy. The way you twist you have to be a master...

Tongue

Big Grin Big Grin

(27-03-2023, 10:58 PM)Wainuiguy Wrote: So you dont consider someone dumping tomato juice over someone assault?  Iguess just lucky it wasn't acid.

I see why you and Lilith get on - you both try to justify assaults as "not that bad" .  Even Hipkins today said that violence to silence speech should not be condoned.  Perhaps some here may want to take that on board?

Only in the fevered imaginations of some on the right. 

Who might do well to perhaps take up embroidery since they appear to have a talent for it.... Rolleyes


And probably you've missed the at least two posts now where I've said that imo she should have been allowed to speak so that we can all understand exactly what her views are, however abhorrent.

Throwing something at someone is assault.   Dress it up how you want (and if course I am speaking with someone who thinks a sexual assault wasn't "that bad" in the past).

Good that you recognise people should be allowed dissenting views - problem is Trans Activists don't allow those views to be aired.  Those who stand up for women's rights are deemed transphobic, right wing etc.

BTW - have you come up with the full video of where this Woman made this far right symbol?  Or was that just something you screen grabbed from someone else who declared it as such?

(28-03-2023, 10:24 AM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Which means it is okay for me to call you derogatory names then? Instead of congratulating you on your dancing expertise?

And, I am not confused. Words are tools. And sometimes weapons. It would be delusional to not understand that, especially if being rather self assured when it comes to adroit use of language.

If you wish to call me names go for it - though I would imagine it would violate a few rules here.  So that is ultimately up to you,
(28-03-2023, 10:48 AM)Wainuiguy Wrote:
(28-03-2023, 10:34 AM)Lilith7 Wrote: Big Grin Big Grin


Only in the fevered imaginations of some on the right. 

Who might do well to perhaps take up embroidery since they appear to have a talent for it.... Rolleyes


And probably you've missed the at least two posts now where I've said that imo she should have been allowed to speak so that we can all understand exactly what her views are, however abhorrent.

Throwing something at someone is assault.   Dress it up how you want (and if course I am speaking with someone who thinks a sexual assault wasn't "that bad" in the past).

Good that you recognise people should be allowed dissenting views - problem is Trans Activists don't allow those views to be aired.  Those who stand up for women's rights are deemed transphobic, right wing etc.

BTW - have you come up with the full video of where this Woman made this far right symbol?  Or was that just something you screen grabbed from someone else who declared it as such?

(28-03-2023, 10:24 AM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Which means it is okay for me to call you derogatory names then? Instead of congratulating you on your dancing expertise?

And, I am not confused. Words are tools. And sometimes weapons. It would be delusional to not understand that, especially if being rather self assured when it comes to adroit use of language.

If you wish to call me names go for it - though I would imagine it would violate a few rules here.  So that is ultimately up to you,



Enough with dragging up a comment from some time ago, from another forum which you're determined to misconstrue. Dodgy


You might also see that in this subject I've not addressed the issue throwing of juice - yet you want to make something of that, too.
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(28-03-2023, 11:04 AM)Lilith7 Wrote:
(28-03-2023, 10:48 AM)Wainuiguy Wrote: Throwing something at someone is assault.   Dress it up how you want (and if course I am speaking with someone who thinks a sexual assault wasn't "that bad" in the past).

Good that you recognise people should be allowed dissenting views - problem is Trans Activists don't allow those views to be aired.  Those who stand up for women's rights are deemed transphobic, right wing etc.

BTW - have you come up with the full video of where this Woman made this far right symbol?  Or was that just something you screen grabbed from someone else who declared it as such?


If you wish to call me names go for it - though I would imagine it would violate a few rules here.  So that is ultimately up to you,



Enough with dragging up a comment from some time ago, from another forum which you're determined to misconstrue. Dodgy


You might also see that in this subject I've not addressed the issue throwing of juice - yet you want to make something of that, too.

Oh no I will drag that up from time to time.  I love it as it makes you look like a total hypocrite.  You hate it for the same reason.

And  my comments re the juice aren't directed at you.
(27-03-2023, 07:39 PM)Wainuiguy Wrote:
(27-03-2023, 07:14 PM)harm_less Wrote: And this Nazi hand gesture is a fiction too?

[Image: Kelly-Jay_Keen-Minshull_Posie+Parker_CRE...3_1120.jpg]

A single screen shot is not proof of anything.  Show the entire clip if you know where it was of course.
At the 1:20 mark in this newspiece: https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/...-visa.html though I suspect you will claim it was a coincidence and just adjusting her jacket zipper.


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