I have a horrible sinking feeling that Trump might squeak through. This is based on the shock of him winning in 2016 when every sensible person had dismissed him as a lunatic and we still had faith in the good sense of the US public. Based on what we now see on US news the whole country looks like a cross between a dementia unit and a pre-school fancy dress parade and democracy may not hold.
Large numbers of early votes posted (particularly by women) and recent polls are showing Kamala having reasonable leads in some unexpected states. I think she might have this.
While the chance of the orange one winning is genuinely terrifying, especially for women, I think & hope that somehow, women will understand what's at stake for themselves & their daughters & vote Kamala overwhelmingly.
But what happens after the results is what's really scary.
in order to be old & wise, you must first be young & stupid. (I'm still working on that.)
(04-11-2024, 09:18 AM)Olive Wrote: I have a horrible sinking feeling that Trump might squeak through. This is based on the shock of him winning in 2016 when every sensible person had dismissed him as a lunatic and we still had faith in the good sense of the US public. Based on what we now see on US news the whole country looks like a cross between a dementia unit and a pre-school fancy dress parade and democracy may not hold.
Im thinking it could go 50/50 either way, its a bit of a hard one, but I have a feeling that Trump may have a chance of being re-elected.
I certainly would not write him off, but no matter who wins, im deeply concerned about the future of the United States.
04-11-2024, 10:22 AM (This post was last modified: 04-11-2024, 10:25 AM by harm_less.)
(04-11-2024, 09:57 AM)Lilith7 Wrote: While the chance of the orange one winning is genuinely terrifying, especially for women, I think & hope that somehow, women will understand what's at stake for themselves & their daughters & vote Kamala overwhelmingly.
But what happens after the results is what's really scary.
And that in itself is a real fear for most following this election. Whoever wins the coming months/year will be challenging for US citizens and the rest of the world. A no-win situation is one way of looking at it.
The recent movie 'Civil War' is (purposely) a portrayal of one potential outcome but hopefully nothing as bad as that results.
It's not the least charm of a theory that it is refutable. The hundred-times-refuted theory of "free will" owes its persistence to this charm alone; some one is always appearing who feels himself strong enough to refute it - Friedrich Nietzsche
I think that if Trump loses, either by a small margin or a massive one he'll trot out the 'rigged election' bollocks, his followers will obliging swallow it & set about creating mayhem again.
If so, then I hope their authorities are ready for it this time.
in order to be old & wise, you must first be young & stupid. (I'm still working on that.)
And the crowd just keeps on walking out as Trump pulls BS crowd numbers out of his arse. He's a fake and his audiences are waking up to the reality of it.
It's not the least charm of a theory that it is refutable. The hundred-times-refuted theory of "free will" owes its persistence to this charm alone; some one is always appearing who feels himself strong enough to refute it - Friedrich Nietzsche
(04-11-2024, 04:48 PM)zqwerty Wrote: National Guard troops on standby in Washington state, Oregon and Nevada as a precaution for ‘potential’ election unrest
I just do not understand why he is allowed to even be a candidate. That makes America look like some kind of banana republic where the lawless can bully through the social systems without any barriers to their wrongdoing.
I may have a wide conservative streak running through my radical leftism.
(05-11-2024, 06:29 AM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: I just do not understand why he is allowed to even be a candidate. That makes America look like some kind of banana republic where the lawless can bully through the social systems without any barriers to their wrongdoing.
I may have a wide conservative streak running through my radical leftism.
I don't know either, but I suspect it might be because when they set up their political system it simply didn't enter aynone's head that someday, there might be a convicted criminal seeking election as President. And really, up till now it did seem highly unlikely.
But I'm not sure that's conservatism, more common sense - although it should depend on the crime, anything serious becomes an immediate hell no.
Because Uruguay's former president Jose Mujica had committed crimes when he was a young radical & was imprisoned for several years, but went on to become one of the most widely admired Presidents.
in order to be old & wise, you must first be young & stupid. (I'm still working on that.)
(05-11-2024, 02:16 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Well, if it does go that way, at least he can't come here. We don't let convicted felons across the border, unless they are 501s
Something to be thankful for, then...
in order to be old & wise, you must first be young & stupid. (I'm still working on that.)
It's not the least charm of a theory that it is refutable. The hundred-times-refuted theory of "free will" owes its persistence to this charm alone; some one is always appearing who feels himself strong enough to refute it - Friedrich Nietzsche
If Trump looks even slghtly like losing, he's almost certainly going to claim fraud & has already planted the seeds for that. There could well be chaos over there.
in order to be old & wise, you must first be young & stupid. (I'm still working on that.)