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Two contrasting interviews
#1
I caught up with Jack Tame's interviews on Q&A this morning. The thing that struck me was the contrasts between the two interviewees. One blustering evasive and lacking facts, the other a totally different public servant.

#2
Followed by this

#3
Yes. Two very different positions, and attitudes.

When exactly do politicians stop blaming the lot that came before?
#4
Indeed.  Rod Carr was really impressive.   

I've read a few comments on FB that Jack Tame interrupted Luxon too often, even "showed lack of respect".   To the contrary, I think it was Luxon showing disrespect by constantly deflecting and instead of answering the questions just reciting his usual boosterish nonsense.   Tame was simply refusing to let him use the session as a re-election campaign.
#5
(02-12-2024, 02:11 AM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Yes. Two very different positions, and attitudes.

When exactly do politicians stop blaming the lot that came before?

Usually, its roughly after the frist 18 months... Rolleyes

Standard poli waffle from Luxon, full oif the usual B & B - bluster & bullshit.

The second interview was a marked contrast - without bluster & no shortage of facts.
in order to be old & wise, you must first be young & stupid. (I'm still working on that.)
#6
Jack Tame took Luxon to pieces, caught him out time and again.

Luxon is just allocating money which would have gone to the poorer classes to go to the business people, as always under a National gov.

As for Climate whatever, that ship has already sailed, the goose is cooked, the time to act was the 60's/70's, it's too late now.

Chaos and devastation coming.
It's not the least charm of a theory that it is refutable. The hundred-times-refuted theory of "free will" owes its persistence to this charm alone; some one is always appearing who feels himself strong enough to refute it - Friedrich Nietzsche
#7
(02-12-2024, 12:16 PM)zqwerty Wrote: Jack Tame took Luxon to pieces, caught him out time and again.

Luxon is just allocating money which would have gone to the poorer classes to go to the business people, as always under a National gov.

As for Climate whatever, that ship has already sailed, the goose is cooked, the time to act was the 60's/70's, it's too late now.

Chaos and devastation coming.

He really is quite good at that; & far better at making them answer rather than avoiding the question than some interviewers are. Its a wonder Luxon will still be interviewed by him; it must be uncomfortable for him.

He was none too comfortable when Moana interviewed him a while ago, either... Rolleyes
in order to be old & wise, you must first be young & stupid. (I'm still working on that.)
#8
He thinks we are all of lower intelligence than him and by his obfuscation and corporate speak answers he is pulling the wool over our eyes and thereby fooling us.

He's been hanging around sycophants for too long in his previous jobs as leader and has now followed the Peter Principle and risen to his own level of incompetence.

(The Peter principle is a concept in management developed by Laurence J. Peter which observes that people in a hierarchy tend to rise to "a level of respective incompetence": employees are promoted based on their success in previous jobs until they reach a level at which they are no longer competent, as skills in one job do not necessarily translate to another)

He is a Prime example of having skills which no longer are of any use in the job he is attempting to do which is to run a country as if it is just a large business.
It's not the least charm of a theory that it is refutable. The hundred-times-refuted theory of "free will" owes its persistence to this charm alone; some one is always appearing who feels himself strong enough to refute it - Friedrich Nietzsche
#9
(02-12-2024, 03:46 PM)zqwerty Wrote: He thinks we are all of lower intelligence than him and by his obfuscation and corporate speak answers he is pulling the wool over our eyes and thereby fooling us.

He's been hanging around sycophants for too long in his previous jobs as leader and has now followed the Peter Principle and risen to his own level of incompetence.

(The Peter principle is a concept in management developed by Laurence J. Peter which observes that people in a hierarchy tend to rise to "a level of respective incompetence": employees are promoted based on their success in previous jobs until they reach a level at which they are no longer competent, as skills in one job do not necessarily translate to another)

He is a Prime example of having skills which no longer are of any use in the job he is attempting to do which is to run a country as if it is just a large business.

And it just doesn't work. Except perhaps in his head...

You do have to wonder about people who, having cut large numbers of jobs are now intent on benficiary bashing, there's talk of them requiring people to move in order to get a job which, depending on the person's circumstances, seems unnecessarily cruel.

Please let this lot be a one term govt & may David Seymour head into political oblivion in the very near future...
in order to be old & wise, you must first be young & stupid. (I'm still working on that.)
#10
The more Luxon and Seymour expose their personalities and ideologies in the public arena the lower their popularity drops.
A case of 'sunshine being the best disinfectant' ?
#11
They don't understand that we shouldn't be running the country to make money we should be doing it to benefit all the people in the country especially those who are in difficulties.
It's not the least charm of a theory that it is refutable. The hundred-times-refuted theory of "free will" owes its persistence to this charm alone; some one is always appearing who feels himself strong enough to refute it - Friedrich Nietzsche
#12
I think we should make some changes to our political system.

1) Very wealthy people prohibited from entering politics.

2) Pay our politicians the same as the lowest wage/benefit, with funding available for things such as travel etc.

3) Those from places other than Welly to be housed during their term in HNZ units, with access to Govt house for entertaining visitors from overseas etc.

4) Raise taxes ( not to a punitive level) & make it illegal to avoid paying your fair share.

5) As far as possible emulate those Nordic countries with high taxes, used for health, education housing ect. etc.

6) School lunches to be supplied to every child with opting in or out made simple & supply every MP in parliament exactly the same lunches; which they're required to eat.

7) Run the country to the benefit of everyone, and with a long term view.

Yeah...I know - never happen..
in order to be old & wise, you must first be young & stupid. (I'm still working on that.)
#13
I'm afraid that the idea of running the country properly and with common sense and making sure that all get a fair share is just too revolutionary and radical.

The harder you work the more you get but with limits.
It's not the least charm of a theory that it is refutable. The hundred-times-refuted theory of "free will" owes its persistence to this charm alone; some one is always appearing who feels himself strong enough to refute it - Friedrich Nietzsche
#14
(03-12-2024, 02:29 PM)Lilith7 Wrote: I think we should make some changes to our political system.

1) Very wealthy people prohibited from entering politics.

2) Pay our politicians the same as the lowest wage/benefit, with funding available for things such as travel etc.

3) Those from places other than Welly to be housed during their term in HNZ units, with access to Govt house for entertaining visitors from overseas etc.

4) Raise taxes ( not to a punitive level) & make it illegal to avoid paying your fair share.

5) As far as possible emulate those Nordic countries with high taxes, used for health, education housing ect. etc.

6) School lunches to be supplied to every child with opting in or out made simple &  supply every MP in parliament exactly the same lunches; which they're required to eat.

7) Run the country to the benefit of everyone, and with a long term view.

Yeah...I know - never happen..
This repeated strategy of yours in respect of severely limiting the income of our MPs comes with the disadvantage of disincentivising those people with quality skills and intellect from parliamentary participation. As is said "you pay peanuts and you get monkeys".

The real challenge is how to attract people with real life qualities and intellect to fill the positions of responsibility involved in improving life for all in our country as those skill sets usually see them gravitating to positions of employment that better fulfills them both intellectually and economically.
#15
(03-12-2024, 03:29 PM)harm_less Wrote:
(03-12-2024, 02:29 PM)Lilith7 Wrote: I think we should make some changes to our political system.

1) Very wealthy people prohibited from entering politics.

2) Pay our politicians the same as the lowest wage/benefit, with funding available for things such as travel etc.

3) Those from places other than Welly to be housed during their term in HNZ units, with access to Govt house for entertaining visitors from overseas etc.

4) Raise taxes ( not to a punitive level) & make it illegal to avoid paying your fair share.

5) As far as possible emulate those Nordic countries with high taxes, used for health, education housing ect. etc.

6) School lunches to be supplied to every child with opting in or out made simple &  supply every MP in parliament exactly the same lunches; which they're required to eat.

7) Run the country to the benefit of everyone, and with a long term view.

Yeah...I know - never happen..
This repeated strategy of yours in respect of severely limiting the income of our MPs comes with the disadvantage of disincentivising those people with quality skills and intellect from parliamentary participation. As is said "you pay peanuts and you get monkeys".

The real challenge is how to attract people with real life qualities and intellect to fill the positions of responsibility involved in improving life for all in our country as those skill sets usually see them gravitating to positions of employment that better fulfills them both intellectually and economically.

It would appear that we have monkeys anyway, even if they aren't paid peanuts.
I do have other cameras!
#16
(03-12-2024, 03:29 PM)harm_less Wrote:
(03-12-2024, 02:29 PM)Lilith7 Wrote: I think we should make some changes to our political system.

1) Very wealthy people prohibited from entering politics.

2) Pay our politicians the same as the lowest wage/benefit, with funding available for things such as travel etc.

3) Those from places other than Welly to be housed during their term in HNZ units, with access to Govt house for entertaining visitors from overseas etc.

4) Raise taxes ( not to a punitive level) & make it illegal to avoid paying your fair share.

5) As far as possible emulate those Nordic countries with high taxes, used for health, education housing ect. etc.

6) School lunches to be supplied to every child with opting in or out made simple &  supply every MP in parliament exactly the same lunches; which they're required to eat.

7) Run the country to the benefit of everyone, and with a long term view.

Yeah...I know - never happen..
This repeated strategy of yours in respect of severely limiting the income of our MPs comes with the disadvantage of disincentivising those people with quality skills and intellect from parliamentary participation. As is said "you pay peanuts and you get monkeys".

The real challenge is how to attract people with real life qualities and intellect to fill the positions of responsibility involved in improving life for all in our country as those skill sets usually see them gravitating to positions of employment that better fulfills them both intellectually and economically.

Because wealthy politicians have done so very, very well haven't they. Oh, hang on... Rolleyes


The problem is that those who might very well make excellent politicians tend to be the ones who 'd have to be carried,kicking & screaming, into political life.

(03-12-2024, 05:03 PM)Praktica Wrote:
(03-12-2024, 03:29 PM)harm_less Wrote: This repeated strategy of yours in respect of severely limiting the income of our MPs comes with the disadvantage of disincentivising those people with quality skills and intellect from parliamentary participation. As is said "you pay peanuts and you get monkeys".

The real challenge is how to attract people with real life qualities and intellect to fill the positions of responsibility involved in improving life for all in our country as those skill sets usually see them gravitating to positions of employment that better fulfills them both intellectually and economically.

It would appear that we have monkeys anyway, even if they aren't paid peanuts.

True, that... Rolleyes Big Grin
in order to be old & wise, you must first be young & stupid. (I'm still working on that.)


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