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According to a man in Point Chevalier, those are the reasons for people leaving their shopping trolleys in the street.
Yeah...he might like to try being say, a solo parent with small children & no car, see if he feels 'entitled & lazy'....
Nobody likes trolleys left on streets but claiming that its all down to laziness & entitlement smacks of being uninformed...perhaps his type of view could be described as 'priviliged & ignorant'
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/5383...ident-says
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Not taking the trolleys back gives someone a job, an important consideration.
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07-01-2025, 04:00 PM
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Ultimately it is the supermarkets problem - they must be worth a few hundy each.
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I thought this would be a thread about landlords...
I do have other cameras!
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Ummmm, no. If you can push a loaded trolley home, you can push the unloaded one back. If you have to use it to get to the bus, then go to the $2 shop and buy a wheeled shopping bag. Around thirty bucks. Use that. Don't overload it, the frame isn't designed for heavyweights. Good heavens, the trollies at the supermarket are theirs, not yours. Borrow one, return it.
It's good manners.
And yes, I have and did when I lived close to Countdown. These days I live too far away so I use the free
delivery thing, and my scoot. The wheely shopper is in the cupboard., in case I get legs again. Well, you never know...
Lazy and entitled is right.
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Walk to the supermarket ? No, I'm too lazy for that !
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Me too now I don't live just round the corner...
That was such a great flat.
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(07-01-2025, 04:50 PM)Praktica Wrote: I thought this would be a thread about landlords...
I thought it would be about our PM...
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The Supermarkets are charging such exorbitant prices (ie ripping off) they can afford whatever it takes to pay personnel to retrieve the trolleys.
(Almost a dollar an egg at New World here in Chch) (Prices on goods are still increasing) (What used to cost $1.99 is now $2.99)
I'm playing a sympathetic sad song on my smallest violin.
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Well, no one forces us to shop there. There are alternatives, most of us though are too lazy to bother seeking them out. And most don't come with trollies.
But for me, it comes down to treating other people's property with respect. No matter who they might be.
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08-01-2025, 08:56 AM
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The supermarkets are there to provide maximum payouts to the shareholders, the fact that to do that they have to provide produce to customers is merely an annoyance.
So they want to provide as few as possible with as high prices as possible to maximize payouts.
It's important to provide as many New Zealanders as possible with jobs not Supermarkets with profits.
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Nah, great excuse, but it's a moral choice, not an economic one. After all, two wrongs do not make a right.
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If I go to a supermarket I am not going to walk back to distant trolley gathering temporary storage areas if they are not convenient, I'm not taking the trolleys anywhere I am leaving them for staff to gather and return to the main storage area, the cost of staff being available to do this should be covered by the cost of the products I have bought.
There is no merit in me taking a job off of a possibly disabled citizen because I am over zealous and worried about my moral values in returning supermarket trolleys to a distant, inconvenient, for me temporary storage area.
If the supermarket did not provide trolleys I probably wouldn't go there I would find one that did.
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this behaviour of taking trolleys home and leaving them on the side of the road has been happening for decades...
suddenly some nimby is worried about his property value...
$1.5 million a year - around 80,000 trolleys - what change can he possible hope to effect by having a winge to local rag... Call countdown, get them collected, move on...
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Be a boring world if we all thought the same way...
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(07-01-2025, 04:50 PM)Praktica Wrote: I thought this would be a thread about landlords...
(07-01-2025, 05:02 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Ummmm, no. If you can push a loaded trolley home, you can push the unloaded one back. If you have to use it to get to the bus, then go to the $2 shop and buy a wheeled shopping bag. Around thirty bucks. Use that. Don't overload it, the frame isn't designed for heavyweights. Good heavens, the trollies at the supermarket are theirs, not yours. Borrow one, return it.
It's good manners.
And yes, I have and did when I lived close to Countdown. These days I live too far away so I use the free
delivery thing, and my scoot. The wheely shopper is in the cupboard., in case I get legs again. Well, you never know...
Lazy and entitled is right.
While I'd agree that the trolley should be returned, that could be difficult for some; 2 or 3 small children & no one to mind them while returning trolley makes a problem - & add to that a rainy day, exhausted Mum or Dad & returning trolleys may be a problem.
Perhaps some enterprising person might collect trolleys at some distance from the supermarket & for a small sum, - it would have to be small, or some won't be able to use it - return them to the supermarket.
(08-01-2025, 01:21 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Be a boring world if we all thought the same way...
It would indeed....
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They need GPS trackers on them, lol we used to see them dumped all around our neighbourhood for years, in streams and on the side of walkways, etc.
Our supermarket used to have a sign that read "no trundlers beyond this point" but that was years ago.
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Our supermarket had the wheels lock if it went outside the parking lot. Not anymore.
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