School lunches, child Poverty Action group

[Lilith7]

Calorie content cut by at least one third, so kids only getting 11-12% of their energy needs for the day.

https://www.facebook.com/100093037767873...6287415280

[dken31]

Here's a thought: how about parents actually just feed their own children.

[harm_less]

Here's a thought: how about parents actually just feed their own children.

And on a related note, how about the government sort out the current inadequacies in the employment and accommodation sectors, so those parents had the means to provide that food on a regular basis?

[Praktica]

Here's a thought: how about parents actually just feed their own children.

Do you know the circumstances of all of the children who receive lunches? Perhaps you rightwingers need to start thinking about more than money...

Also - I notice that very similar comments appear on school lunch threads elsewhere. Are you on some sort of mailing list?

[Lilith7]

Here's a thought: how about parents actually just feed their own children.

Yeah..here's another thought - how about people, being paid a decent living wage or benefit sufficient so that they are ABLE to feed their kids.

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A nutrionist has found siome problems with school lunches. Kids getting only about 11-12% of their total energy needs for the day Year 9's were receiving 378 grams but now down to 300grams, years 4-8 were getting 300 grams but now were down to 240 grams.
The School Lunch Collective which is responsible for lunches in schools, declined to comment.

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/nutr...ol-lunches

[Oh_hunnihunni]

Boy, dken, you come across as being really dickensian. As in Scrooge like.

The reality of this analysis of the food being supplied, is that someone is making a lot of money on a government contract, by under supplying the children they are contracted to feed, properly, on time, and with care.

I would've thought that qualified as fraud. Seymour should look into it...

[Lilith7]

Boy, dken, you come across as being really dickensian. As in Scrooge like.

The reality of this analysis of the food being supplied, is that someone is making a lot of money on a government contract, by under supplying the children they are contracted to feed, properly, on time, and with care.

I would've thought that qualified as fraud. Seymour should look into it...

Yeah....well, good luck with that!

[king1]

It costs NZ the better part of $10,000 per student per year to educate our children.  I personally consider it a good investment to spend a few extra dollars feeding kids so they can focus and concentrate, which protects our initial investment - surely that makes good economic sense?

kids should not have to suffer unnecessarily because of the shortcomings of the parent...

[Jan]

I find the school lunch debate so hypocritical - where was the outrage and headline grabbing by parents and school staff when Labour were only supplying free lunches to approx 30% of our kids - they kept promising to extend it after first introducing the scheme but every year the extension was pushed out further
A link that is very interesting Hipkins admitting ALL kids were not receiving lunch but only 30% were receiving mostly very upmarket lunches costing on average $8.69 -
https://insidegovernment.co.nz/major-mil...programme/

[Praktica]

I find the school lunch debate so hypocritical - where was the outrage and headline grabbing by parents and school staff when Labour were only supplying free lunches to approx 30% of our kids - they kept promising to extend it after first introducing the scheme but every year the extension was pushed out further
A link that is very interesting Hipkins admitting ALL kids were not receiving lunch but only 30% were receiving mostly very upmarket lunches costing on average $8.69 -
https://insidegovernment.co.nz/major-mil...programme/

Yup - everything is Labour's fault, eh Jan?

[king1]

I find the school lunch debate so hypocritical - where was the outrage and headline grabbing by parents and school staff when Labour were only supplying free lunches to approx 30% of our kids - they kept promising to extend it after first introducing the scheme but every year the extension was pushed out further
A link that is very interesting Hipkins admitting ALL kids were not receiving lunch but only 30% were receiving mostly very upmarket lunches costing on average $8.69 -
https://insidegovernment.co.nz/major-mil...programme/

How is this hypocritical Jan? The "outrage" is targeted at the lack of quality of the lunches, nothing to do with how many students are receiving it.  Obviously there wouldn't be much need to supply them to higher socioeconomic areas. Perhaps you could share where labour said ALL kids would receive free meals, I can't see it anywhere...

anyway i've seen the $3 lunch...   $8.69 does not sound excessive, let alone "very upmarket".

Yes there could have been some scope for bulk buying and efficiencies of scale, but Seymour wanted $3 lunches, and that's exactly what got...

[Lilith7]

I find the school lunch debate so hypocritical - where was the outrage and headline grabbing by parents and school staff when Labour were only supplying free lunches to approx 30% of our kids - they kept promising to extend it after first introducing the scheme but every year the extension was pushed out further
A link that is very interesting Hipkins admitting ALL kids were not receiving lunch but only 30% were receiving mostly very upmarket lunches costing on average $8.69 -
https://insidegovernment.co.nz/major-mil...programme/

I'm not altogther certain but I think its at least several years now that I've been saying that ALL kids should given school lunches, regardless of which kind of govt they may be.

I think its something we need to establish clearly with regard to quality etc. etc. & then ring fence it so that no future govt of any stripe can meddle with it again & hungry kids will be fed a good healthy lunch.

And MP's should be given precisely the same lunch as schoolkids, compulsory.

[Oh_hunnihunni]

I find the school lunch debate so hypocritical - where was the outrage and headline grabbing by parents and school staff when Labour were only supplying free lunches to approx 30% of our kids - they kept promising to extend it after first introducing the scheme but every year the extension was pushed out further
A link that is very interesting Hipkins admitting ALL kids were not receiving lunch but only 30% were receiving mostly very upmarket lunches costing on average $8.69 -
https://insidegovernment.co.nz/major-mil...programme/

An upmarket lunch costs $8.69?

I guess that doesn't include coffee. Or  a scone. Sheesh, my Wednesday treat, a bacon and egg panini with a flat white costs double that...

But hey, Chris Hipkins didn't make it.

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I find the school lunch debate so hypocritical - where was the outrage and headline grabbing by parents and school staff when Labour were only supplying free lunches to approx 30% of our kids - they kept promising to extend it after first introducing the scheme but every year the extension was pushed out further
A link that is very interesting Hipkins admitting ALL kids were not receiving lunch but only 30% were receiving mostly very upmarket lunches costing on average $8.69 -
https://insidegovernment.co.nz/major-mil...programme/

I'm not altogther certain but I think its at least several years now that I've been saying that ALL kids should given school lunches, regardless of which kind of govt they may be.

I think its something we need to establish clearly with regard to quality etc. etc. & then ring fence it so that no future govt of any stripe can meddle with it again & hungry kids will be fed a good healthy lunch.

And MP's should be given  precisely the same lunch as schoolkids, compulsory.

That would certainly stop the bullying thing that goes on when school lunches are parental income
means tested.

Still, I can't help remembering warm milk. In little bottles. Yuk. I actually have one of those bottles on my kitchen bench. It reminds me that being poor isn't that bad when you can grow your own vegies and cook real food that doesn't taste as awful as that stuff that we all got handed at Normal Intermediate back in the sixties... 

[Lilith7]

I find the school lunch debate so hypocritical - where was the outrage and headline grabbing by parents and school staff when Labour were only supplying free lunches to approx 30% of our kids - they kept promising to extend it after first introducing the scheme but every year the extension was pushed out further
A link that is very interesting Hipkins admitting ALL kids were not receiving lunch but only 30% were receiving mostly very upmarket lunches costing on average $8.69 -
https://insidegovernment.co.nz/major-mil...programme/

An upmarket lunch costs $8.69?

I guess that doesn't include coffee. Or  a scone. Sheesh, my Wednesday treat, a bacon and egg panini with a flat white costs double that...

But hey, Chris Hipkins didn't make it.

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I'm not altogther certain but I think its at least several years now that I've been saying that ALL kids should given school lunches, regardless of which kind of govt they may be.

I think its something we need to establish clearly with regard to quality etc. etc. & then ring fence it so that no future govt of any stripe can meddle with it again & hungry kids will be fed a good healthy lunch.

And MP's should be given  precisely the same lunch as schoolkids, compulsory.

That would certainly stop the bullying thing that goes on when school lunches are parental income
means tested.

Still, I can't help remembering warm milk. In little bottles. Yuk. I actually have one of those bottles on my kitchen bench. It reminds me that being poor isn't that bad when you can grow your own vegies and cook real food that doesn't taste as awful as that stuff that we all got handed at Normal Intermediate back in the sixties... 

Yeah, i remember those - 'milk monitors' would hand them out once the boys had lugged the crates in from the gate at school. Sometimes in winter the milk woild be partly frozen on a really cold morning.

And if we still had that, David Seymour would want it removed  (how dare poor people  be given free milk)  immediately, miserable sod that he is. Shades of 'Thatcher, Thatcher, milk snatcher' from the 80s...